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1. Synaes+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-28 08:36:25
The big problem is the way that people want US-style lifestyles with big houses and cars. This consumes way more energy than European or Asian style living in apartments with public transport.

Overpopulation will solve itself as countries develop. We’ve seen that over and over.

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2. blkhaw+m4[view] [source] 2024-01-28 09:21:57
>>Synaes+(OP)
nobody specifically wants shitty us style suburban planning with shitty us style houses. Plus it would hard to replicate that because its an artifact of historical cultural and political developments. In short it would be harder to replicate that instead of doing better.

But yes they want a better life for themselves.

3. throwa+S7[view] [source] 2024-01-28 09:58:39
>>Synaes+(OP)
> Asian style living in apartments with public transport.

^ clearly never visited Asia. LOL

4. lozeng+p8[view] [source] 2024-01-28 10:03:48
>>Synaes+(OP)
Well, the bulk of them want more meat, washing machines and air conditioning.

The main increase of energy usage has been due to this, not people in urban areas eskewing apartments and public transport to drive cars and live in suburban houses.

https://youtu.be/6sqnptxlCcw?si=FfqAqooG9qg4kejC

Another fun fact: 80% of the world's population has never flown, and only 2-4% fly abroad in a year.

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5. ChatGT+Gc[view] [source] 2024-01-28 10:50:49
>>Synaes+(OP)
Th USA and other industrialised countries operated with huge emissions because oil and gas were cheap and because no one factored in the externalities. Which includes energy security.

Now that we are seeing a reversal to the status quo, you see the move to more efficient systems moving into full swing. The uptake of renewables is exponential now.

I just renovated and fully insulated my house with cellulose fiber that was actually really cheap, double glazed inner windows and installed floor heating with a hydraulic heat pump. My energy bill is almost nothing of what it used to be and I’ve not installed my solar yet, but I’ll be starting in March.

I did this because the price of gas, kerosene (water boiler) and oil have increased dramatically and the technology to do so exists and is cheap enough to make this investment a no brainer from an economic standpoint. It’s hard to imagine how cheap solar panels are now.

I’m not the only person doing this.

The USA and all other developing countries will adopt all these efficient gains at the same rate. No one is going to pay more for less.

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6. Synaes+Uw2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 06:26:44
>>lozeng+p8
The amount of concrete needed to build such big homes contributes to carbon emissions, not to mention destruction of nature, and it also costs more to heat and cool.
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