Big Musk energy - and on checking, of course he has quoted Eminem in one of his stupid fights.
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/elon-musk-eminem-ly...
> F** Mobb Deep! F** Biggie! F** Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a motherf**' crew!
> And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy, then f** you too! Chino XL, f** you too! All you motherf**s, f** you too!
> All of y'all motherf**s, f** you, die slow!
High Til I Die is another good one, not a diss track https://youtu.be/LxNTvHSNIYQ
When I was in high school in the early/mid 2000s, there was a series Tupac bootlegs going around. Makaveli 1 - ¿10ish? That's all on YouTube now and probably torrents. Songs getting leaked on message boards too. He put out so much good material in such a short span of time. He was working on collabs with Boot Camp Clik and some other east coast guys and was supposed to do more stuff with Bone Thugs. He had a compilation album he was working on called One Nation that was supposed to end the stupid East/West thing. Which reminds me, it blew my mind when I could get on myspace and talk to one of the guys from Boot Camp Clik about it.
Happy to see YC take the current site down and say they don’t actually think TK brought positive change to SF.
Now that I've seen it I suppose I need to figure out what we should do in this case. The general principle is that we moderate less, not more, when YC is part of a story (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...).
In this case, I suppose we can satisfy that rule by taking [flagged] off the post and leaving the sensational title instead of editing it the way we normally would.
> I would hope HN has a policy not to censor negative information about YC
I don't use the word "censor" because it means different things to people, but yes: literally the first rule of HN moderation is that we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is involved: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
I call it the first rule because it was the first thing that pg firehosed me with on the morning that I walked into moderation "training" with him. He was yelling about it (not in a mean way - in a "you absolutely need to know this" way) before I'd had a chance to grab a chair. And we've stuck to it ever since.
That isn't enough to stop some people from saying we do nefarious things, but it does allow us to answer such claims in good conscience. That alone makes it worth sticking to. More importantly, it seems to be sufficient to earn the provisional trust of the community, as long as we keep answering questions when they come up.
The one nuance I sometimes point out is that "moderating less" doesn't mean "suspending all moderation and doing nothing at all" - that would leave too large a loophole. It means that we take whatever standard practice we would normally apply in a situation, and then do something less than that.
In the present case, I would normally have left the post [flagged] and/or edited the sensational title, but because it was YC related, I turned off the flags and left the title intact—even though that title is about as silly as describing someone who quotes "to be or not to be, that is the question" as "contemplating suicide". Normally we'd never let that stand on HN, but first rule is first rule.
Fuck Chan Peskin Preston Walton Melgar Ronen Safai Chan as a label and motherfucking crew …
And if you are down with
Peskin Preston Walton Melgar Ronen Safai Chan
as a crew
fuck you too …
Die slow motherfuckers.
Well, this is how we gonna do this: Fuck Mobb Deep! Fuck Biggie!
Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a motherfuckin' crew!
And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy, then fuck you too!
Chino XL, fuck you too!
All you motherfuckers, fuck you too!
(Take money, take money)
All of y'all motherfuckers, fuck you, die slow!
Motherfucker, my .44 make sho' all y'all kids don't grow!
> The ferocity of Shakur's raging vocals,[9] as said by long-time collaborator and producer of "Hit 'Em Up" Johnny J, was entirely authentic.[4] He explained that Shakur was initially fueled by his anger against Biggie and Bad Boy Records for the belief that they had a role in the November 30, 1994, ambush and attack on Shakur. He claimed that Biggie and his crew knew of his shooting and wanted him dead.[10] Shakur used this fury, which Johnny "J" described as "superhuman",[4] to attack Biggie and other East Coast rappers.[4] Johnny "J" also stated that he had never seen Shakur so angry and that the words he rapped were in no way an act,[11] describing the recording process as the most "hard-core he had ever done."[4]
three months after releasing the dis track in june 01996, 2pac got his ass shot dead by crips keefe d and his nephew in a drive-by, which was apparently completely unrelated to biggie, but rather due to beating up his killers a few hours earlier. (i don't know what else he expected when he attacked a crip unprovoked.) biggie similarly got shot dead in a drive-by six months later. biggie's murder is still officially unsolved, though family members have blamed parts of the los angeles police department allied with the bloods, the gang of the head of 2pac's record label. (not, however, with a .44; with a 9 millimeter.) puff daddy, chino xl, and half of mobb deep are still alive; the other half, prodigy, died 20 years later from medical accidents following hospitalization due to complications from sickle-cell anemia, a condition 2pac ridicules in the above-linked track
normally quoting song lyrics gives you a free pass to avoid being taken seriously, but possibly when the song in question was written as a threat of a killing that was actually carried out nine months later, people may see it differently