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1. stats1+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-27 23:50:05
Why does a country that is apparently doing nothing wrong have the most advanced PR and propaganda machine in the world?
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2. hayst4+t5[view] [source] 2024-01-28 00:45:54
>>stats1+(OP)
I think that is probably an exaggeration. I don't see a lot of reason to believe they have the most advanced machine and I don't buy that their PR machine exists to ameliorate ethical lapses. PR/Propaganda is power and all regimes want power.

I've seen incredible amounts of (justfied) anti-Israeli action press, so I don't particularly believe they have a wildly successful PR machine either.

China, the US, and Russia are all clearly advanced. Facebook alone got significant press for weighing in substantially on elections across the world. Twitter, before Elon, was used to coordinate against despotic regimes all over the world. Hollywood alone has incredible soft and hard power.

NSO group's Pegasus, and their selling software to despotic regimes so that they can find and torture/murder/scare journalists is much more telling of Israel's ethical core, as is their bombing of associated press offices.

Seeking power is not mens rea, directly harming those who would report your misdeeds is.

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3. snird+Q5[view] [source] 2024-01-28 00:49:47
>>stats1+(OP)
Because most of the Muslim world shares false propaganda against them, and they are billions of people against ~10 million?

Why does tech used have any effect on what is true? If you don't fear the truth, you should be happy that the minority has the tools to get more data out.

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4. Protos+6A[view] [source] 2024-01-28 07:25:26
>>stats1+(OP)
Well, that's because the premise of actions or policies being "right" or "wrong" is very simplistic. Both sides are active in the PR front, you think those "free palestine" rallies organize themselves?
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5. __jamb+U51[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-28 12:59:08
>>hayst4+t5
> Hollywood has.. hard power

Um, what??

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6. corner+Oo1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-28 15:07:27
>>snird+Q5
Israelis on TikTok and Israeli leadership make the best case against Zionism. They’re openly racist and genocidal. As someone who’s not religious it’s clear the Palestinians have the moral high ground by a long shot.
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7. snird+zE3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 11:25:00
>>corner+Oo1
Palestinians have higher moral ground by raping innocent teenagers and then shooting them in the head?

Yeah, some moral high ground. Your comment tells more about you than about this conflict.

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8. corner+3c4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 15:15:55
>>snird+zE3
Palestinians have the moral high ground because it was their land that was invaded in 1948 and they been oppressed by Israel ever since. The “rapes” have been discredited over and over. One of the many things Israel does that is very obvious to outside observers is to lie constantly in the most obvious of fashions.
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