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1. thinki+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-27 21:15:02
>I still IGNORE both the climate change and the climate "deniers" narrative because I consider both PROPAGANDA.

I choose to ignore the majority of experts in the field as well as the people on facebook equally! I'm so enlightened!

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2. kkfx+He[view] [source] 2024-01-27 23:12:47
>>thinki+(OP)
In what field? Because what is on the headlines is in the field of PRs, witch are the same kind of those who nourish certain cohort of "believers" like those of the flat earth. If you analyze their readers you'll find they are the very same ascientific kind.

Beside that, beside the classic Francis Galton experiment, beside Gustave Le Bon observation about the crowds, also the experts crowds, beside the history of Eduard Bernays campaigns, like those for the tobacco industry who makes many doctors believe smoking is good for health, try to LOGICALLY reason with your own knowledge. When the "modern climate change" start to happen for you? Perhaps DECADES ago? That how much "anthropic emissions" was made since them? How much can they change in the near future? Beside that ALL TIMES you here "we need to be quick" what does it means in practice? Maybe doing something before having the time to reason about up front?

If for you the "climate believers" narrative is The Truth and that they are "all the experts" while the others are just foolish unacculturated people from some social network well, you are a believer of some kind of religion, not differently than the believers of the flat earth.

Not counting that, your recipe than is what? Remain sit watching the TV about how important is switching to a heat pump, perhaps without doing it in person, just hearing and reverberating to others? For me there is no enlightenment of wokeism but mere logic: I choose to move from a big city to a mountain area, I built a new home so with the current design and tech, not because "it's my contribution to a cause" but because summing MANY aspects I've decide that's the most opportune/wise choice I have. Meanwhile I've also put a modern wood stove (meaning airtight, sucking air from the outside to ventilate the flame chamber) in the new home, because while I have p.v. and a small LFP storage I prefer having a more reliable backup WHEN, not if, I'll need it. I'm an engineer and I call it logic. Nothing more, nothing less while observing in modern gear how much "not at all experts" are those who have designed most of such gears simply because they do not have them in person at home, so they ignore countless real world cases not easy evidently to grasp at a project level. They dumb thing like a p.v. "integrated" EV charger that actually hyper-flawed because those who have designed it have never try to use it to actually really trying charging from p.v.

3. Modifi+Y71[view] [source] 2024-01-28 10:24:23
>>thinki+(OP)
Please consider whether this type of post raises or detracts from the quality of the culture here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

>Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

>Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

4. horns4+DD1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 14:43:21
>>thinki+(OP)
So realistically is most of the climate talk you hear directly from scientists, or from reporters looking for clicks giving you their interpretation of the data?
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