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> England is blessed with its pleasant climate

Two sentences in and I already have a thousand questions.

>>stavro+(OP)
England does have a pleasant climate, rather conducive to human life, both globally and especially among its peer latitude locations. Is your quip that it's dreary and rainy often?

>>stavro+(OP)
Compared to Finland it seems pretty great...

>>Ekaros+Y
Sure, but nobody described Finland's climate as "pleasant" either.

>>stavro+(OP)
Nine months of winter followed by three months of bad weather

>>stavro+(OP)
Well it’s at same latitude of Quebec, so compare winters in both places.

>>nytesk+L1
It has milder climate, but milder does not mean pleasant.

>>gottor+J
We Brits are grumpy at the moment from weeks of storms, snow, -10c to 5c temperatures, wind, rain, short days...

Nobody (edit: here) would call it 'pleasant' right now

Fingers crossed for a 35c-40c heat wave in summer ... what with our uninsulated houses without AC !

>>gottor+J
Heck, it's broadly comparable to the PNW, but drier, and I consider PNW to be pretty pleasant all considered.

>>switch+T3
Here in Canada we just got through a cold snap that had temperatures down to almost -40c so... I would definitely call that pleasant :)

>>Steven+ib
Ah hah I did mean "nobody here". I can't think of a single friend or family member who isn't depressed by the weather and ready for it to be over!

Of course, we shouldn't ever complain about anything as there are children dying in Africa :) ! /s

>>switch+T3
Embarrassingly so. When we start complaining how cold it is because it went below freezing in winter, we really must look pathetic to Canadians, Finns, Russians etc.

We also start having people saying things (and writing articles) about how the remember how much worse it was in 1965(?).

Warm summers just lead to more moaning that gives a different lot of countries a chance to laugh at us.

I suppose I should be grateful there are not many people who can go on about their memories of the summer of 1911.

>>nytesk+L1
Quebec is pretty big so this doesn’t tell the whole story. To picture it as an American, travel from dC to Boston (known for its cold winters). Then keep going the same direction for the same distance again. You’re deep into the northern wilderness, but at the same latitude as the UK, which has a comparably balmy climate.

>>graeme+Jm
As always, remember to consider humidity when compararing locations - it can make both cold and hot weather feel much harsher. I'm more comfortable in 40c at low humidity than 25c at 90%. The UK experiences much more of the latter.

>>switch+Me
Yeah it's been freezing where I am too, around 15c during the day.

>>stavro+(OP)
I assumed it was a literary reference to Blake:

    I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In England's green & pleasant Land.

The British, broadly speaking, are familiar with this quotation (the poem was set as a popular hymn); when they refer to the climate as pleasant, it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

>>switch+Me
Sounds like you guys need to start doing the wim hof method :) you actually start to appreciate the cold

>>switch+T3
I think the point is that that’s fairly unusual, tho, whereas if you look at places on the same latitude, they’re normally far, far worse, every year.

>>dwater+Xo
ChatGPT says: "If you travel from Washington D.C. to Boston and then continue in the same direction for the same distance, you would arrive at a point with the approximate coordinates of 45.80°N latitude and 64.73°W longitude. This location is in the Atlantic Ocean, southeast of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, Canada."

Quebec is a pretty big province (with almost the whole population in the south part anyway) but also a city. I guess an American can easily picture the location of Montreal 45.5°N (30 miles north of New York/Vermont) or Quebec City 46.8°N (70 miles east of north Maine). Both are quite south of London (51.5°N) or Paris (48.9°N). (For reference, most of the US-Canadian border runs along the 49°N parallel.)

>>kgwgk+FH
This is exactly the wrong time to use a LLM. Case in point: those coordinates are not in the Atlantic ocean.

>>tobz10+Bs
Right! I've met quite a few Australians who say how annoying and muggy 25c is in London compared to 25c in e.g. Melbourne

>>peterd+KY
Ah, you're right. I was too lazy to check. (I also don't know if the calculation of the coordinates is correct.)

Definitely not "southeast of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia" because it's in New Brunswick and a few miles west of Nova Scotia.

Doesn't seem "deep into the northern wilderness" either, it's five miles from the sea.

>>stavro+(OP)
Had the same feelings. I always expected UK to have this "famous" mild climate.

After I moved there, I don't understand the trope. It's extremely windy and humid.