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The way things are going, the earlier West understands/accepts insustainability of current israel, the less bloody will be the end result. israel could even survive as a Jewish state, but that would require massive diplomatic effort of many forces.

>>Someon+(OP)
I think better plans need to be made for dismantling a country (that's what you're aiming at right?) in such a volatile part of the world. It can already be extremely bloody, as I said there are genocidal threats against Israel on all borders and Israel as a nuclear power can become genocidal too if it feels its own people are at risk of a second holocaust. Simply crippling Israel's economy so it collapses and hoping for the best sounds like a very bad idea to me.

>>weathe+22
Israel is already genocidal. I am not in fact aiming at dismantling israel. What I am saying this will happen anyway, if West won't change its approach.

>>Someon+8q2
Is Hamas genocidal in your eyes? Genuinely curious.

>>weathe+BD2
Only one side is credibly an existential threat to the other

>>wahnfr+o54
Was Hamas genocidal on October 7th?

>>weathe+rA4
The first casualty of war is the truth. Many of the atrocious events by Hamas are not as clear cut as originally reported. It looks like the primary goal of Hamas was to capture hostages for a large scale prisoner exchange. The IDF over reacted and to suppress the capture of hostages, killing both Hamas fighters and Israeli citizens. I am describing the situation, not absolving anything or anyone.

Look for the analysis by Scott Ritter on Youtube.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hannibal+protocol+haaretz

I do not think outright murder of civilians was the goal of the October 7th attack.

>>nerpde+YZ5
Btw I wouldn’t share Ritter as a source even if you agree with the analysis - he’s compromised financially and ethically

>>wahnfr+J36
Even if your claims are true, he has valuable insights and connects things in ways that others do not. The phrase "wouldn't share" is an interesting way to suppress a viewpoint.

I still watch mainstream news even though it is compromised financially, ethically and politically.