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1. tim333+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-27 12:28:32
Peace could be achieved fairly easily if both sides said they want to live in peace. However only one does. I think that will change eventually.
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2. ethanb+45[view] [source] 2024-01-27 13:17:49
>>tim333+(OP)
“Peace while continuing to seize land” is a peculiar-enough type of peace to not really qualify for simply “wants to live in peace” by many people’s definition.
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3. tim333+d9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-27 13:55:28
>>ethanb+45
It's tricky but there have been attempts at a normal peace deal like the Camp David Summit. But then the Palestinians say no. So instead you get the other stuff you mention.
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4. ethanb+hf[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-27 14:42:27
>>tim333+d9
Yeah, the “but first X did Y! But before that P did Q!” goes back thousands of years. All that to say it’s not as simple as “one side wants peace and the other doesn’t.” It’s very messy.
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5. tim333+Hs2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-28 11:01:00
>>ethanb+hf
Yeah but ignoring history a bit if A and B say ok lets sign an agreement, do our own thing and not attack each other you get a kind of peace. If B says no A must be destroyed then you don't. It's not really a moral question of who's right and wrong so much as a practical agreement to move on.
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6. ethanb+vG2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-28 13:04:44
>>tim333+Hs2
The recent Camp David Summit didn’t come to any agreement? And the Camp David Accords before then weren’t signed by the principals in this conflict.
7. petera+uV3[view] [source] 2024-01-28 21:40:35
>>tim333+(OP)
That is an unhelpful and incorrect view
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