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1. HDThor+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-26 23:22:51
There are no 100% effective solutions here. Ive spent a considerable amount of time in Israeli and realize living under the iron dome isnt ideal, but it is the best Israel can do. Long term occupation would lead to more Israeli deaths than a return to the pre october 7th status quo. The only other solution for israel is a legitimate genocide of all Palestinians, and I just dont see that happening in the next century.
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2. smooth+j1[view] [source] 2024-01-26 23:30:02
>>HDThor+(OP)
> The only other solution for israel is a legitimate genocide of all Palestinians, and I just dont see that happening in the next century.

Or giving Palestinians full rights and reparations for the land they stole, that is a valid and quite frankly, the best option.

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3. HDThor+62[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-26 23:34:31
>>smooth+j1
Israel will never give Palestinians full rights, theyre too scared of palestinian terrorism. And for good reason, there is every reason to believe that palestinians will never accept peace with israel. And thats before we even get to the Israeli government believing they have a god given right to the west bank.

Israel stole almost all of the palestinians land. I just cant believe palestinians would ever forget that, I know that I sure wouldnt.

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4. smooth+n3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-26 23:43:32
>>HDThor+62
You said the only other solution is genocide (which you thankfully say you don't see happening this century). Relenting from their occupation is another solution. I agree with your assessment of their state of mind though.
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5. Aeolun+rc[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-27 00:45:03
>>HDThor+62
> And for good reason, there is every reason to believe that palestinians will never accept peace with israel.

Not with that attitude they won’t. I’m convinced most people in the region would be happy with peace, whatever form it takes, because they just want to live their lives. Of course that’s contingent on not being oppressed

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6. HDThor+4e[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-27 00:56:27
>>Aeolun+rc
> most people in the region would be happy with peace

Unfortunately that's not good enough for Israel. If they give Palestinians sovereignty and give up their security control it would only take a small group to commit terrorist attacks against Israel, so they wont do it unless theyre very confident that no one is Palestine will want to do that.

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7. Aeolun+jg[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-27 01:15:20
>>HDThor+4e
It always takes only a small group to commit terrorist acts. That’s true everywhere across the world. Most countries accept that difficulty as the price of freedom.
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