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1. jzb+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:03:08
I tell anybody who asks, if you need a printer, then 1) avoid inkjet printers and 2) I recommend Brother laser printers.

I've owned 4 Brother printers since the 90s. The first one lasted more than a decade, and I put it through the wringer. The next one lasted about the same, including a stint as EIC of a magazine which meant I printed a ton of proofs on that poor thing. They all worked easily with Linux, to boot.

I currently own two, one color and one multi-function B&W. They don't actually get a ton of usage but <knocks wood> they work when I need them to and I'm not constantly buying toner for the things.

(I'm sure other folks have horror stories because somebody always does no matter what product, but they've served me well enough - and certainly Brother doesn't seem to be as customer hostile as HP.)

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2. jmisav+I[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:06:39
>>jzb+(OP)
Newer Brothers printers are starting to do the same tricks.

>>31860131

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3. therea+L[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:06:53
>>jzb+(OP)
same for the last 20 years: Brother laser printer, "this is the way"
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4. 0x457+p1[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:11:20
>>jzb+(OP)
Crucial addition to #2: make sure it's actually a Brother printer and not rebadged trash like what I bought...
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5. troupe+Z2[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:18:15
>>jzb+(OP)
I have had a pretty good experience with Epson Eco Tanks. They cost more than an inkjet, but the ink seems a lot more reasonable...even when buying it from Epson.
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6. hedora+35[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:29:15
>>jzb+(OP)
I bought a brother multifunction scanner inkjet. I left it to print a 20 page document while unattended, and there was a paper jam. I forgot to check when I came back, and it sat with a jam for a few days.

This dried out the non-replaceable inkjet heads, bricking the entire thing. I think I might have gotten 10 decent non-test-page pages out of it before I recycled it.

My current printer is a samsung wifi-enabled laser that cost about $100. It's great, but HP bought the division, and the first-party toner, drums, etc, are now garbage. Fortunately, the cheap supplies work as well as the OEM supplies used to. If you see one used on craigslist, etc, it might be worth picking up.

There have been some intermittent bugs with the MacOS / iOS / Linux CUPS drivers (I think they're all the same open source stuff), but it's been trouble-free otherwise.

I agree though. For new consumer printers, I think Brother laser jets seem to be the only remaining choice worth considering.

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7. rchaud+f5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:30:00
>>therea+L
I'm surprised they've stayed solid all these years. I have a laser printer from 2010 that's running absolutely fine.
8. ohm+t7[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:42:39
>>jzb+(OP)
Hopefully the Brother printer is not connected to power outlet which is connected to an AFCI circuit breaker because it will trip it all the time. I had to move mine to a different part of the house for that reason.
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9. really+88[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:45:47
>>ohm+t7
I swear to god I was going crazy trying to find why I randomly tripped the circuit breaker at my house. I never made the connection that it actually happens when I try to print something. Enshittification indeed.
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10. hammoc+f8[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:46:21
>>0x457+p1
Where did you buy it from?
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11. mikest+T8[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:49:36
>>ohm+t7
Ours causes a "UPS is now on battery power" dialog to pop up every time it prints.[0] I have wondered if it would pop the circuit breaker if the UPS didn't buffer it, or if the UPS is just overly sensitive.

[0](Because the printer is on the UPS that has a USB connection to my desktop.)

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12. renewi+f9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:51:13
>>jmisav+I
Oh thanks for that. Looks like I should keep all revisions of firmware on oldest possible. I print through CUPS, so it should be quite safe to do since printer cannot require upgrade unless it's time-limited already.
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13. JohnFe+U9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 21:53:59
>>jmisav+I
So if Brother is out, which printer is still reasonable to buy? Are there any?
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14. ilamon+aa[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:54:55
>>jzb+(OP)
We own two Brothers, one of which prints ~500 sheets/month for the past 3 years (model HLL2395DW). The one time we had a problem (unrecognized Brother drum or toner unit bought through Staples) support helped to diagnose and fix the problem.

Only minor gripe is the process for getting a return label for recycling toner which requires reading a minuscule serial number to enter into a web form.

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15. cloudw+Od[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 22:12:04
>>troupe+Z2
I can vouch for this. In my experience, both the printer and original ink have lasted 7 years (and counting) with very infrequent prints. Just a few head cleanings from the maintenance menu if it's been a while and it still works. It's still 3/4 full.
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16. 0x457+Xk[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 22:50:55
>>hammoc+f8
Best Buy I needed a printer ASAP and buying was cheaper than paying per page.
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17. pkaye+Tm[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 23:02:40
>>JohnFe+U9
Anyone have thoughts on Canon laser printer? My Brother laser printer keeps on having lines and dots despite changing the toner and fuser. I've kind of given up on them. Canon seems much lower price for a similar feature set so I'm wondering what is the catch.
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18. Bizarr+jn[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-19 23:04:56
>>hedora+35
I had a Samsung laser printer that printed maybe 300 pages before the fusor died on it. The fusor replacement part was more expensive than an entire new printer.

I have had the worst luck with samsung devices, everything but their ram and ssds have failed on me in an incredibly short time (appliances failing in less than 3 years) or had issues making them nearly unusable for me, such as their TV backlights are set to like 6500k or something, far too blue and hurts to look at for me.

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19. dpkono+Gz[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 00:34:08
>>jmisav+I
Is there any evidence for this? The HN post that you linked is sourcing a Reddit thread where the person is making that assumption based on a response from a support person from Brother and the fact that they're unable to manually calibrate the printer (which they're admitting is simply something they don't know how to do).

This would be extremely disappointing to me if Brother has gone the way of the dodo because I specifically bought a Brother printer for this reason and continued to buy their OEM cartridges and toners as a means of support. I've been voting with my dollars and would like some evidence that this is the case and possibly that this is intentional before I bring out the pitchfork on this one.

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20. Kon-Pe+QA[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 00:44:18
>>cloudw+Od
I’ve got one too and have been generally happy with it, though I print a lot more than you do.

Some issues:

Mine must be connected to the network via Ethernet; if I use Wi-Fi it disappears from the network after about 5-10 minutes (goes to sleep?) and you cannot print without pressing a few buttons on the printer.

It is unable to update its own firmware (maybe this is a plus?).

There is a fair amount of thin plastic and a general feeling that it will break if I’m not gentle. But I have had it for almost 3 years with no breakage.

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21. joseph+sJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 02:08:46
>>dpkono+Gz
Here's someone else who just yesterday mentioned it happening: >>39045792
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22. ac130k+XP[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 03:25:12
>>pkaye+Tm
I got a Canon LBP233dw, it's a bit wonky in terms of build quality (my old HP1010 is just such a tank), but it does work with 3rd party cartridges, one of which (10000 pages) I bought right away (it said "works without chip check removal"). The printer seems fine after almost 15000 pages, the only issue is that it complains about this 3rd party stuff, so you have to press "OK", when it starts up.

PS oh, and if you want super high print quality, probably you should get an LBP236dw, which adds PostScript support.

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23. davone+MW[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 04:48:38
>>JohnFe+U9
I've got a lot of respect for Oki. Granted they've left the US market but still in the EU and Asia. Heck, we were getting security firmware updates 7 years after initial purchase. Of the 10 we had at work, still rocking 9 of them 9 years after purchase. The only loss was due to a power spike after a power loss restoral.

I'd throw all our worthless Xerox in the trash if I could still get Oki.

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24. pkaye+O31[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 06:26:29
>>ac130k+XP
Thanks for the feedback. I'll seriously consider the Canon because the my Brother 5900DW is causing me so much problems. I don't print a lot so not too concerned about 3rd party cartridges.
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25. bob102+L91[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-20 08:03:47
>>mikest+T8
I wouldn't put a laser printer on a typical consumer UPS. It draws a lot of current to warm up the fuser and may cause more wear than necessary to your line-interactive units. I always plug my laser printers directly into the grid.
26. tommie+be1[view] [source] 2024-01-20 09:09:31
>>jzb+(OP)
I'd love to share my horror stories:

1. I'd love to be able to tell my HL-4150 to not clean itself at midnight. Or really any time anyone might be asleep. You have an NTP server connection; use it! OTOH, my dad's Lexmark had that same stupidity. (I love buying professionalish products, but they seem to do everything they can to ensure office products are unusable at home.)

2. I've never experienced toner cartridges that leaked so much as the Brother one (yes, all four.) I ended up buying cheap 3P cartridges, and haven't had the same issue. They royally screwed up the seals/spreader somehow.

That said, it does print and is fast, so as long as I don't let it sit turned on for too long, it works.

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27. thiht+Lh1[view] [source] 2024-01-20 10:04:53
>>jzb+(OP)
I actually bought an inkjet Brother printer and it’s amazing! I’ve never had a single issue with it, it works all the time just as expected.

It was definitely more costly than HP or Epson, but damn it’s worth it

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28. Fatnin+dT3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-21 06:18:33
>>tommie+be1
My dad keeps an old inkjet printer of some brand I forget right now. It refuses to scan without ink. So he has some ink cartridges that he puts in when he wants to print or scan and the rest of the time they are removed and the orange plastic caps they came with reattached. They live in a bag sitting on top of the printer.

Now they don't dry out and the printer can't sneakily squirt all the very very expensive ink into a sponge when you least expect it.

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