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1. willio+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:00:29
It's kind of refreshing in a weird way when a CEO says something like this. Like we put soooo much value in the voice of CEOs globally, yet every now and then you actually tune into the words uttered by them and you realize they're just people. Like they have horrible ideas that they think are profound, just like everyone. So while it's somewhat scary for anyone working for HP and I've personally avoided HP products for over a decade, it just goes to show CEOs don't run their companies. They're a figure head in most cases the actual value comes from... us. The workers.

Makes me hopeful that one day all workers will realize who produces the value in their companies and start to restructure in a way that puts their voices more near the top. Unions are obviously great for this, but we just need more of that honestly.

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2. bigbil+p[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:02:08
>>willio+(OP)
> the actual value comes from... us. The workers.

All value is created by labor.

3. tempes+c2[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:12:43
>>willio+(OP)
Of course CEOs are just people who make mistakes. In fact, a CEO is simply a specialized worker whose role is making high-level strategic decisions for the company. (And sometimes more tactical ones, depending on the company's scale.) Some are going to be better at that than others. The leverage of that decision-making allows a CEO to add significant value if they make good decisions, or subtract value if they make poor ones. Personally I agree that the best CEOs listen to feedback from other employees (as well as from customers and other stakeholders) and try to achieve a degree of consensus, but I would argue that that too is a skill that adds value.
4. troupe+54[view] [source] 2024-01-19 21:21:01
>>willio+(OP)
> they have horrible ideas that they think are profound

I'm not so sure this is a horrible idea from the standpoint of their business. Other businesses could operate differently and if people preferred that, they wouldn't buy HP. Case in point, I haven't heard anyone recommend an HP printer recently.

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