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1. vouaob+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-17 13:18:02
Personally, I don't think it is natural to sit in the same role for more than a few years. And that's not just the primary tasks of the job -- the same people, the same administration, the same bureaucracy. I do feel that virtually no jobs will allow you to grow as a person and enjoy life.

Here, by "job" I mean the traditional kind at a corporation or medium-sized organization. After seven years of working in such organizations I realized the only thing that was fulfilling was quitting and doing a bunch of random things like contracting, content-creation, and other passive income streams.

Of course, that may not be for everyone but I still think (after talking to hundreds of colleagues in various places) that after a while, most jobs suck. Sure, some of them pay well but then again, I personally feel that no amount of money is worth spending the best part of your youth doing mostly meaningless things. And, if the money IS good enough, it makes sense just to work for a decade and then retire early...

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2. nyokod+e3[view] [source] 2024-01-17 13:34:39
>>vouaob+(OP)
> I personally feel that no amount of money is worth spending the best part of your youth doing mostly meaningless things

It depends on why you’re doing it. Supporting a family, and contributing money and spare time to your community, are very meaningful. I’m building <yet another API> for <Company> in order to do my real job which is being a parent and citizen.

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3. vouaob+Xp[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-17 15:16:20
>>nyokod+e3
That is true. I agree with it for sure. Just so many jobs don't let you do this. But if you managed to find it, that's great!
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4. uticus+PG[view] [source] 2024-01-17 16:27:27
>>vouaob+(OP)
I agree with a lot of this. The software industry has so few lasting projects, and almost no lasting projects that pay the bills. It just doesn't provide value to the paying consumers in a way that encourages long term building. Which, no surprise, the name is software after all, the benefit being computations can be easily changed without re-wiring circuits.
5. surajr+xJ[view] [source] 2024-01-17 16:39:16
>>vouaob+(OP)
If you like the people you work with, why change things? I've been on the same team for 6 years and my org has had minimal churn in that time period. It's not quite like a second family (that would leave me too heartbroken if I ended up moving on), but I don't really think I'll have an easy time finding another group I work so well with, so I don't feel motivated to find another opportunity.

I used to move around a lot, but I've since put down roots. There is something you miss out by constantly upheaving your life. Nothing is permanent, but letting flowers blossom over long time periods can be rewarding.

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6. vouaob+3L[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-17 16:45:44
>>surajr+xJ
A good counterpoint. Not many people get it but you found something good. That's very nice.
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7. nyokod+pQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-17 17:10:04
>>vouaob+Xp
> Just so many jobs don't let you do this

If the job you have genuinely doesn't allow you to do your real job (support a family etc) then you're definitely in the wrong job.

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8. nyokod+r51[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-17 18:20:52
>>surajr+xJ
> letting flowers blossom over long time periods can be rewarding

There can be rewarding ways to live your life that don't allow this, e.g. serving your country, doctors without borders etc, but the nomadic life is a sacrifice so in order to be happy long term most people need to eventually set down roots as you did. The digital nomad lifestyle was sold for years as the ultimate life hack, and perhaps for a minority it is, but for most of us it sours.

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