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1. novaga+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-08 22:36:15
I'm optimistic in that I hope we don't have AGI by 2100 because it sounds like a truly dystopian future even in the best case scenario
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2. ehsanu+W9[view] [source] 2024-01-08 23:22:44
>>novaga+(OP)
What kind of best case are you imagining? I don't quite understand why the very best case would be dystopian.
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3. novaga+Im[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 00:43:37
>>ehsanu+W9
I believe the best case scenario is one where humans have all of our needs met and all jobs are replaced with AI. Money becomes pointless and we live in a post-scarcity society. The world is powered by clean energy and we become net-zero carbon. Life becomes pointless with nothing to strive toward or struggle against. Humans spend their lives consuming media and entertaining ourselves like the people in Wall-E. A truly meaningless existence.

Francis Fukuyama wrote in "The Last Man":

> The life of the last man is one of physical security and material plenty, precisely what Western politicians are fond of promising their electorates. Is this really what the human story has been "all about" these past few millennia? Should we fear that we will be both happy and satisfied with our situation, no longer human beings but animals of the genus homo sapiens?

It's a fantastic essay (really, the second half of his seminal book) that I think everyone should read

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4. mewpme+Qv[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 02:00:10
>>novaga+Im
But are we right now or ever really happy specifically?

Happiness is always fleeting. Aren't our lives a bit dystopian already if we need to do work and for what reason? So that we can possibly feel like we are meaningful with hopes that we don't lose our ability to be useful.

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5. novaga+o02[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-09 15:08:53
>>mewpme+Qv
Our lives are imperfect, but that doesn't make them dystopian. Some people hate their jobs, but I strongly believe that most people, especially men, would be utterly miserable if we felt unnecessary. You see this today, even, with many young men displaced from the economy and unable to find jobs or start families. A world in which humans are no longer needed in the economy will be inherently fragile, as I believe most people would go out of their way to destroy it
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