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1. vidoc+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-04 02:36:01
> I know this is a controversial view, but I think employers should not be allowed to run background checks unless important for the role (government work, access to children, etc) and where it is important for the role it should only return the criminal convictions that might be relevant to the role.

This shouldn't be controversial at all and I think your take is 100% correct wrt exceptions (gov work, access to children etc). The very "Once a felon always a felon" thing going on in the united states is a secret life long sentence that completely defeats the idea of redemption.

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2. calvin+i[view] [source] 2024-01-04 02:40:06
>>vidoc+(OP)
It's not controversial, because we've twisted freedom of association, in places people aren't allowed to even have a "Ladies Night" at the bar, chose who the rent to, etc etc etc. Barry Goldwater absolutely and unequivocally warned us of this.

Now because that freedom of association, freedom to chose who you do business with does not exist, we think this is reasonable.

However, it is not. I own a business. I should not be required to hire anyone I do not want to. Full stop!

And it doesn't have to be a race card thing, Say I hate the Iraq war. Say I would like to never hire any veteran who contributed to the deaths of over 1 million Iraqi Citizens. Or say I worked with Iraq war veterans in the past and I hate their military attitude. I am not allowed to do so. If I bought a company, I would want to fire all veterans. No, you are not allowed to do so.

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3. Briggy+AL[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-04 10:20:35
>>calvin+i
I get that, but in this specific case it kinda sucks for you. We shouldn’t be making a system that penalizes offenders for life without explicit sentencing for such. Whether that information is useful to your business is relatively irrelevant to me because denying people proper employment does a lot more harm to them than the harm done to the people in businesses like yours by not penalizing them.
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4. calvin+eh1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-04 14:22:01
>>Briggy+AL
But you don't get it. you think the government is required to play God in every aspect of the economy, clearly.
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5. Briggy+Iq1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-04 15:10:16
>>calvin+eh1
So true, that really is exactly what I’m saying by saying you shouldn’t be allowed to dig up whether someone has been convicted of a crime in the past when hiring them. If that‘s playing god, then slap a robe on me and call me father buddy. I mean the state is the one providing you with all that juicy hiring information in the first place. Perhaps this gives you an unfair advantage in the free market, and I’m just a concerned libertarian.
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6. calvin+Iw1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-04 15:39:04
>>Briggy+Iq1
that's right! Time to auction off Yosemite and put a roller coaster over Old Faithful
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7. Briggy+8D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-04 16:07:03
>>calvin+Iw1
Hell yeah we gotta get that bitch workin for us! The hell did nature ever do for america?
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8. vidoc+9R2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-04 22:47:50
>>calvin+Iw1
s/Yosemite/Yellowstone
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