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1. buckyf+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-12-27 18:57:49
I don’t view LLMs as a fad. It’s like drummers and drum machines. Machines and drummers co-exist really well. I think drum machines, among other things, made drummers better.
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2. tremon+66[view] [source] 2023-12-27 19:34:14
>>buckyf+(OP)
It mainly made mediocre drummers sound better to the untrained ear.
replies(3): >>HaZeus+Da >>graphe+wq >>buckyf+w23
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3. HaZeus+Da[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 19:57:23
>>tremon+66
Then it comes down to preference, but the craft and discipline objectively evolved as a result. Just as your trained ear may keep your preference to more refined percussive - a subject matter expert may care more for their native, untrained materials on their topic. In either case, music progressed in spite of the trained ears, just as AI will progress all walks of life in spite of the subject matter experts.

Nonetheless, trained ears and subject matter experts can still pick their preference.

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4. graphe+wq[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 21:20:26
>>tremon+66
I agree. Hitting perfect notes constantly with little or no variation is pretty hard for a person to do. Now anything "live" or proof of humanity is better sounding since it's not as sterile.
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5. idonot+Ey[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 22:07:23
>>graphe+wq
I agree with this. I prefer live music with the imperfections. And I like it when unmixed live recordings are leaked
6. fennec+qS2[view] [source] 2023-12-28 18:00:49
>>buckyf+(OP)
Neither, and NYT editors use all sorts of productivity tools, inspiration, references, etc too. Same as artists will usually find a couple references of whatever they want to draw, or the style, etc.

I agree with the key point that paid content should be licensed to be used for training, but the general argument being made has just spiralled into luddism at people who are fearful that these models could eventually take their jobs; and they will, as machines have replaced humans in so many other industries, we all reap the rewards, and industrialisation isn't to blame for the 1%, our shitty flag waving vote for your team politics are to blame.

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7. buckyf+w23[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-28 18:44:12
>>tremon+66
It allowed people to see the difference between drum machines and humans. Drummers could practice to sound more like the ‘perfect’ machines, but more importantly the best drummers learned how to differentiate themselves from machines. The best drummers actually became more human. Listen and look at Nate Smith - this guy plays with timing and feel and audience reactions in ways that machines cannot. Sometimes tools let humans expand their creativity in ways previously unheard of. Just like the LLMs are doing right now.
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