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> Solidly rooting for NYT on this - it’s felt like many creative organizations have been asleep at the wheel while their lunch gets eaten for a second time (the first being at the birth of modern search engines.)

Hacker News consistently have upvoted posts to let users circumvent paywalls. And even when it doesn't, conversations here (and on Twitter, Reddit, etc.) that summarize the articles and quote the relevant bits as soon as the articles are published are much more of a threat to The New York Times than ChatGPT training on articles from months/years ago.

>>bnralt+(OP)
I don't think it's about scraping being a threat. It's that they violated the TOS and stand to make a ton of money from someone else's work.

I find irony in the newspaper suing AI when other news sources (admittedly not NYT) use AI to write the articles. How many other AI scrapers are just ingesting AI generated content?

>>gosub1+x6
> I find irony in the newspaper suing AI when other news sources (admittedly not NYT) use AI to write the articles.

That isn't ironic at all, newspapers have newspaper competitors and if those competitors can steal content by washing it through an AI that is a serious problem. If these AI models weren't used to produce news articles and similar then it would be a much smaller issue.