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1. throwu+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-12-27 16:12:45
It’s not neutral if all the content is in the model, regardless of whether you had to twist its arm or not. What does that even mean with a piece of software?

A printer is neutral because you have to send it all the data to print out a copy of copyrighted content. It doesn’t contain it inherently.

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2. jncfhn+n2[view] [source] 2023-12-27 16:25:54
>>throwu+(OP)
Well I’m callin you a liar, and I’m open to being proven wrong.

Show me a prompt that can produce the first paragraph of chapter 3 of the first Harry Potter book. Because i don’t think you can. I don’t think you can prove it’s “in” there, or retrieve it. And if you can’t do either of those things then I think it’s irrelevant to your claims.

3. realus+W4[view] [source] 2023-12-27 16:39:24
>>throwu+(OP)
The fact that the NYT lawyers used a carefully written prompt kind of nullifies this argument. It's not like they stumbled on it on accident, they looked for it and their prompt isn't neutral either.
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