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1. gumbal+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:45:28
This argument is moot. Just because some countries - see china - steal intellectual property it doesnt mean we should. There are rules to the games we play specifically so we dont end up like them.
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2. ndsipa+I[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:49:36
>>gumbal+(OP)
It's impossible to "steal" intellectual property without some kind of mind wiping device.
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3. b4ke+D1[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:54:16
>>gumbal+(OP)
Ok, let’s address this from the standpoint of a node in the network of the thoughtscape. A denizen of the “inter”net, and also a victim of the exploitive nature of artists.

Media amalgamated power by farming the lives of “common” people for content, and attempt to use that content to manage lives of both the commons and unique, under the auspice of entertainmet. Which in and of itself is obviously a narrative convention which infers implied consent (id ask to what facetiously).

Keepsake of the gods if you will…

We are discussing these systems as though they are new (ai and the like, not the apple of iOS), they are not…

this is an obfuscation of the actual theft that’s been taking place (against us by us, not others).

There is something about reaping what you sow written down somewhere, just gotta find it.

-mic

4. skwirl+X1[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:55:52
>>gumbal+(OP)
The word ‘moot’ does not mean what you think it means.
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5. noitpm+g3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 15:03:21
>>ndsipa+I
You must have used that device if you're making that argument in good faith.
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6. aragon+Z4[view] [source] 2023-12-27 15:11:26
>>gumbal+(OP)
Countless Americans are happily 'stealing' intellectual property everyday from other Americans by accessing two websites — SciHub and LibGen — who owe their very existence to them being hosted in foreign countries with weak intellectual property protection and not being subject to US long-arm jurisdiction. Even on this website, using sites like archive.is (which would be illegal if they operated in the US) to bypass paywalls to access copyrighted material is common and rarely frowned upon. I doubt a culture of respecting copyright is as characteristic of "us" as you seem to think.
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7. ndsipa+q7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 15:26:06
>>noitpm+g3
Okay, so how is it possible to take and deprive the author of their original? The correct term would be "unauthorised copying".
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8. k1t+39[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 15:34:49
>>skwirl+X1
It can do though. While the proper definition is "worthy of discussion / debatable", it can also refer to a pointless debate.

"Moot derives from gemōt, an Old English name for a judicial court. Originally, moot referred to either the court itself or an argument that might be debated by one. By the 16th century, the legal role of judicial moots had diminished, and the only remnant of them were moot courts, academic mock courts in which law students could try hypothetical cases for practice. Back then, moot was used as a synonym of debatable, but because the cases students tried in moot courts were simply academic exercises, the word gained the additional sense "deprived of practical significance." Some commentators still frown on using moot to mean "purely academic," but most editors now accept both senses as standard."

- Merriam-Webster.com

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9. skwirl+Qa[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 15:43:47
>>k1t+39
Do you really think the commenter meant to use moot to mean “purely academic?”
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10. denton+Ul[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 16:46:11
>>skwirl+Qa
"Moot" means "arguable". That's what GP was saying.
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