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1. elguyo+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:45:21
Establishing a legal route to train LLMs on copywriten content could certainly have a chilling affect on the progress of science and useful arts... Why would someone devote their life to their studies or craft when they know that an LLM will hoover it up and start plagiarizing it immediately?
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2. logicc+N1[view] [source] 2023-12-27 14:55:02
>>elguyo+(OP)
The vast majority of quality art and is produced by people who do it because they want to create art, not for money, and most artists earn little.
replies(3): >>CTmyst+h4 >>macNch+B5 >>jrajav+Vg
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3. CTmyst+h4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 15:08:21
>>logicc+N1
I'm not sure that's actually true, even though we hear it often. The artists I know (about a dozen) are all trying to figure out how to make _more_ money from their art so that they can continue making their art
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4. macNch+B5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 15:14:25
>>logicc+N1
Even if that is the case, plenty of art is made with the hope or dream that people will find it worth paying for, and there are many people out there who do in fact fully support themselves doing creative work. Having the copyright to that work is foundational to even be able to consider that possibility at all.
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5. jrajav+Vg[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-12-27 16:21:24
>>logicc+N1
Artists getting paid little is a function of how easy it is to capture the value that artists create, and how willing other people are to do that capturing - not how valuable their work is. Artists definitely want to get paid and do not want to live on scraps for "passion's" sake. This is the entire argument for copyright existing in the first place, even though current copyright law has flaws.
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