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It isn't. It isn't. It isn't. It is.

We have no idea where that point is.

It's worth comparing to where we were a century ago. That's where my kid will be when he's grown up compared to now.

>>blagie+(OP)
Your kid will be grown up in less than 20 years, not 100. But even still, in 100 years, will there be 4x as many people? Will humanity be consuming 10x the energy that we do today? Will we have computers that are a million times faster?

The point is, exponential progress is incredible, but at some point it ceases to be exponential. And the progress of the last 100 years was fueled by a exponential population growth and exponential energy usage. We're already at +1.5C because of that; how hot will it be when your kid is grown up?

>>saulpw+S3
If you look at the rate of change of humanity, it's been exponentially increasing.

If you look at the direction, it's not predictable. A very different set of things will come to pass.

A child born today will live O(100 years), and will be in a very different world than I am today. Computation, in particular, is continuing to change. LLMs are a huge change, as is being interconnected, as are many other things. That's not "faster," like Moore's Law of yesteryear, but it is change.

Also: Change isn't always progress.

>>blagie+(OP)
Just a guess but I'd say "this point" is some time after real signs of understanding and intelligence are displayed.

The concept of *money* and commerce might be a good place to start trying to teach this techno parrot how to actually think.

A 5 year old has way better thinking ability. Maybe we should regulate 5 year olds as being potentially dangerous. You never know --- at "some point" one of them could easily decide to destroy humanity.