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So your first step is destruction of the Jewish state. Why would Israel do that. If that's your opening gabit it seems like war is the only option.

>>sabarn+(OP)
Because South Africa did. And before that the US did. Eventually Israel will too, it's just a question of how much blood their extremists and racists will exact before they yield to justice.

>>sabarn+(OP)
A symbolic right of return for like 10% of the refugees to their overgrown villages isn’t destroying anything.

>>bjourn+dJ
That's a very different claim the US and south Africa integrated. The us over a period of 100 years. There are some land reforms in sa but there are none in the US. Also Israel has a native Arab population that is already integrated.

>>sabarn+Xn1
White Americans and white Boers were forced to treat colored people as their equals. Eventually Jewish Israelis will have to treat Palestinians as their equals too. It's exactly the same, except the level of extremism we see on the Israeli Jewish side is extremely high.

>>bjourn+AH2
No. There were multiple attempts to destroy Israel by force and the outcome is this. There are Israeli arabs with equal rights as Jews so this isn't the ethnic struggle it was in the US or sa. This is what do you do with a defeated enemy.

>>sabarn+WS2
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "destroying Israel"? In your previous comment you claimed that letting the victims of the 1948 ethnic cleansing return is the "destruction of the Jewish state". But that is something the international community has demanded since 1948. So is the international community trying to destroy Israel?

Suppose an American president had said "I've killed lots of blacks in my life and there's no problem with that". Or that the US largest newspaper published essays arguing that America would have failed if it ever got a black president. Or that congress enacted laws saying that the right to national self-determination in the US is unique to white people. If the US was like that would you say that blacks had equal rights?

https://web.archive.org/web/20210201162924/https://www.jpost...

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-n...

>>sabarn+(OP)
> Why would Israel do that.

Boycott divestment and sanctions.

Although, in Israel's case, just losing the multiple billions of dollars it receives every year from the U.S., and loss of its uniquely favored trading status with the EU, might be enough, on its own, to motivate Israel to change course.