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> dang made a mistake by allowing this topic

Strongly disagree. There are honest debates and questions here. I am learning from them, though I’m also fact checking everything that surprises.

>>JumpCr+(OP)
Too loaded. Too complex. Too many strong emotions/feelings. Destruction, death, loss. Amplified. Weaponized. I know I feel very strongly and it's hard to put things in objective terms.

You need to zoom in, zoom out, the history is vast, there's the big picture, there are details. Most of what you'll encounter online and in the media, on both sides really, is propaganda.

>>YZF+c5
“I can’t even” isn’t a mature response to complexity.

>>YZF+c5
Stating “too complex” about any argument is a sure fire way to ensure no one gains any understanding about the topic.

I hate sports analogies (doubly so with something as serious as this), but… you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take or the debates you don’t have.

>>YZF+c5
You don't want it talked about so try throwing a smokescreen that no-one should. I say the big picture is quite clear enough.