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1. gaazoh+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-27 09:00:37
Even a door-open alarm works better as an actual alarm than an app notification. My fridge does that: it beeps if the door is left open, so you can get your ass back in the kitchen and shut it. I don't want to receive a notification from my fridge app while I'm at work because my wife left the fridge door open at home (or vice versa), I want whoever is physically close enough to the fridge to leave the door open to be notified.

I have yet to see a single non-bullshit feature from any "smart" appliance, honestly.

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2. seb120+6i[view] [source] 2023-11-27 11:25:13
>>gaazoh+(OP)
I recently bought a LY washing machine that is smart. I now get notified when the wash cycle is done, this is actually useful for me as the laundry is not in the house so I can't head a buzzer or chirm. Is it essential? Probably not.
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3. jasonj+dk[view] [source] 2023-11-27 11:45:26
>>gaazoh+(OP)
I have a fridge in our garage that has no such alarm.

It turns out it was a very simple Wifi ESP8622 project to wire up a reed switch + a magnetic door sensor to add such an alarm to Home Assistant.

4. garble+qB[view] [source] 2023-11-27 13:54:05
>>gaazoh+(OP)
>I want whoever is physically close enough to the fridge to leave the door open to be notified.

Same - although I have experienced an interesting extension of this: HomePods now have alarm detection (the intention being to detect a smoke/burglar alarm). It is also triggered when the fridge is left open, leading to everybody in the household getting a critical alert (which ignores silent mode).

5. bluGil+dM[view] [source] 2023-11-27 14:54:00
>>gaazoh+(OP)
A smart stove would let you start the oven preheating before you get home, thus saving a 5-10 minute wait before you can start cooking that frozen pizza you just bought. That is the only justification I've seen for a smart appliance I've seen.

I would like a smart fridge that lets me know what is inside - so I know if I should get milk or a salad on my way home. So far nobody makes that.

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6. gspenc+v01[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 15:55:31
>>bluGil+dM
> A smart stove would let you start the oven preheating before you get home, thus saving a 5-10 minute wait before you can start cooking that frozen pizza you just bought.

I'm sure this is practically not a real issue, but my OCD paranoia cannot fathom the idea of my oven being on while I'm not at home due to safety / fire concerns.

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7. the_sn+Z01[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 15:57:32
>>bluGil+dM
>A smart stove would let you start the oven preheating before you get home, thus saving a 5-10 minute wait before you can start cooking that frozen pizza you just bought. That is the only justification I've seen for a smart appliance I've seen.

I feel this is a terrible trade-off: a minor convenience, in exchange for a huge attack surface that could allow someone to burn your house down remotely. The folks who build IoT systems have neither the skill nor the economic incentive to keep these things secure for the 15+ year lifespan of a durable good like a cooking range.

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8. LorenP+fk2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 21:46:08
>>seb120+6i
Yup, this is the proper use for connecting an appliance. Our washer and dryer are in the house but from my computer I can't hear the dryer, the washer doesn't even make a noise. (Note that we've had these for more than two decades, they're dumb by modern standards.) I've been wondering why somebody doesn't make a smart plug that can send a notification when it's connected appliance draws power in a specified fashion. (Both would be fine by setting a minimum power to activate, then below it for a specified period. Washer: The threshold would be set below the power the agitator draws. The delay would cover the rinse fill time. Dryer: Threshold for the motor that runs the drum, immediate trigger if it stops.)
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9. fennec+4j4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-28 15:04:43
>>the_sn+Z01
That's why govs should enforce standards for protocols/interfaces with a standard plug socket for a "controller". Replace the govs first though, fucking useless parasites.

Would be fun though, appliances can just have a "make me smart socket" with direct connection to hardware. Then it's the smart plug that needs kept updated, but more sustainable since it's used for many products. And if your manufacturer for it dies, can just replace with any other one since they'd be held to a standard.

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