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Exactly this.

Who decided to call useless ideas an "innovation" is beyond my understanding.

>>jester+(OP)
I need a printer to print. Ideally at acceptable prices (I know, ink cartrigaes are like razor blades and that won't change ever). Plus points if it can be connected to a network (which is a given today). I don't have to print when not at home (why would I fax something to myself when I am not at home?).

Ideally, as I print photos mainly, I get more then 4 colors and decent color management.

Added bonus for scanning (with or without document feeder).

Not much else there. Pay-per-page subscriptions are ok, by the way, price wise for home office use.

Then it comes down to innovation in the fields of color management, ink mixing and print heads and paper handling. And inks, of course.

Anything else is just pointless, and nothing I would call innovation.

>>hef198+v3
Epson make EcoTank inkjet printers ink tanks that you refill from a bottle, not cartridges. It's vastly better than ink cartridges, there's no comparison on price, convenience or environmental impact. The tanks and bottles hold vastly more ink than a cartridge does. The printers are roughly the same price as any inkjet printer. I do not work for Epson.

>>gareth+6b
I have an ET-8550 at home. Considerably more expensive than a comparable non-tank printer, with a factor of two give or take. Without a deal I got, it would have been out of budget.

Compared to a Canon Pro-200, they break even was somehwere around 300 printed a4 photo mark if I remember my detailed calculation correctly (850 bucks for the Epson and 460 bucks for Canon).

But yes, I love that printer! Because as a person, I do not think like my busoness case, hence with the tank printer I do kot think about print costs, as the purchase price is gone and mentally accounted for.

I never compared the non photo-capable EcoTank and whatever canon calls their tank printers to the cartridge cousins so.

>>hef198+ic
Glad you like your ET-8550! That's quite a high end, expensive printer. I have a much less expensive one, though, on reflection, I agree the initial purchase price is higher than cartridge ink jets.

>>gareth+6b
It seems that nobody knows of ecotank... It should be the top reference in this thread.

>>_giorg+Ho
I have L3150 or L3160 and it is good. 2/3 years mid usage run

>>gareth+Jf
There are only so many A3+ sized photoprinters on the market. Decent ones that is that don't suck at B/W printing. It, for me at least, came down to either the ET-8550 or the Canon Pro-200. Break-even was somewhere around 300 a4 photos, based on retail price for the printer. So initially, I was inclined to take the Canon one.

Then I got a decent deal on a ET-8550, and the peace of mind to not re-run ink costs everytike you print, plus the Epsons home office printer functions, closed that decision. And the Epson print quality is really good, even B/W, so far, with the right media setting and paper, no colour tints whatsoever (at least that I can see).