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1. pc86+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-22 16:13:38
Others have pointed out several reasons this isn't actually a problem (and that the premise itself is incorrect since "OpenAI" is not a charity), but one thing not mentioned: even if the MS-appointed board member is a MS employee, yes they will have a fiduciary duty to the organizations under the purview of the board, but unless they are also a board member of Microsoft (extraordinarily unlikely) they have no such fiduciary duty to Microsoft itself. So in the also unlikely scenario that there is a vote that conflicts with their Microsoft duties, and in the even more unlikely scenario that they don't abstain due to that conflict, they have a legal responsibility to err on the side of OpenAI and no legal responsibility to Microsoft. Seems like a pretty easy decision to make - and abstaining is the easiest unless it's a contentious 4-4 vote and there's pressure for them to choose a side.

But all that seems a lot more like an episode of Succession and less like real life to be honest.

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2. throwo+b1[view] [source] 2023-11-22 16:18:35
>>pc86+(OP)
It's still a conflict of interest. One that they should avoid. Microsoft COULD appoint someone who they like and shares their values, that is not a MSFT employee. That would be a preferred approach but one that I doubt a megacorp would take
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3. dragon+c2[view] [source] 2023-11-22 16:22:21
>>pc86+(OP)
> and that the premise itself is incorrect since "OpenAI" is not a charity

OpenAI is a 501c3 charity nonprofit, and the OpenAI board under discussion is the board of that charity nonprofit.

OpenAI Global LLC is a for-profit subsidiary of a for-profit subsidiary of OpenAI, both of which are controlled, by their foundational agreements that gie them legal existence, by a different (AFAICT not for-profit but not legally a nonprofit) LLC subsidiary of OpenAI (OpenAI GP LLC.)

4. oatmea+N2[view] [source] 2023-11-22 16:25:10
>>pc86+(OP)
Microsoft is going to appoint someone who benefits Microsoft. Whether a particular vote would violate fiduciary duty is subjective. There's plenty of opportunity for them to prioritize the welfare of Microsoft over OAI.
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5. ghaff+M6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-22 16:43:50
>>throwo+b1
Both profit and non-profit boards have members that have potential conflicts of interest all the time. So long as it’s not too egregious no one cares, especially not the IRS.
6. Xelyne+sX1[view] [source] 2023-11-23 02:56:02
>>pc86+(OP)
Whats the point of Microsoft appointing a board member if not to sway decision in ways that benefit them?
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