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1. hdivid+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-22 10:06:28
This, 100%.

Sam pontificated about fusion power, even here on HN. Beyond investing in Helion, what did he do? Worldcoin. Tempting impoverished people to give up biometric data in exchange for some crypto. And serving as the face of mass-market consumer AI. Clearly that's more cool, and more attractive to VCs.

Meanwhile, what have fusion scientists and engineers done? They kept on going, including by developing ML systems for pure technological effect. Day after day. They got to a breakthrough just this year. Scientists and engineers in national labs, universities, and elsewhere show what a real commitment to technological progress looks like.

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2. ottero+4b[view] [source] 2023-11-22 11:47:01
>>hdivid+(OP)
> This, 100%.

When do new HN users get the ability to downvote?

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3. bryanc+Zb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-22 11:54:06
>>ottero+4b
501 karma.
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4. deely3+6c[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-22 11:55:02
>>ottero+4b
Depends on karma and other hiddens parameters.
5. robert+Ex[view] [source] 2023-11-22 14:10:22
>>hdivid+(OP)
> Scientists and engineers in national labs, universities, and elsewhere show what a real commitment to technological progress looks like.

And everywhere. You've only named public institutions for some reason, but a lot of progress happens in the private sector. And that demonstrates real commitment, because they're not spending other people's money.

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6. waltha+Iy[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-22 14:14:33
>>robert+Ex
If the ZIRP era has taught us anything, it's that private companies can spray other people's money up the wall just as well as anyone
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7. baking+Wz[view] [source] 2023-11-22 14:19:25
>>hdivid+(OP)
He is the Executive Chairman of Helion Energy so it is not just a passive investment.

That said, I wish Helion wasn't so paranoid about Chinese copycats and was more open about their tech. I can't help but feel Sam Altman is at least partly responsible for that.

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8. qup+oB[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-22 14:25:02
>>ottero+4b
You're on pace for about two years in
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9. robert+eP[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-22 15:22:33
>>waltha+Iy
It's the (partial) owners' money. The (partial) owners might be VC firms, but they are risking their own money.
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