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Unsaid: “Also I lied about hiring him.”

> And we’re extremely excited to share the news that Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, together with colleagues, will be joining Microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research team.

https://nitter.net/satyanadella/status/1726509045803336122

I guess everyone was just playing a bit loose and fast with the truth and hype to pressure the board.

>>wokwok+(OP)
it was Monday morning and he didn’t want MSFT stock to crash

>>wokwok+(OP)
maybe he really had an affirmative statement on this from Sam Altman but nobody signs an employment contract this quickly so it was all still up in the air

>>wokwok+(OP)
Why does this accusation keep coming up? Sam even confirmed he took the offer in one of the tweets above "when i decided to join msft on sun evening". Contracts are not handcuffs and he was free to change his mind.

>>wokwok+(OP)
Exactly this. It also moved Microsoft’s share price. Is that not questionable practice?

>>wokwok+(OP)
Satya's statement at the time may well have been true at the time in that he, Sam and Greg had agreed on them joining MSFT. Later circumstances changed, and now that decision has been reversed or nullfied. Calling the original statement a lie is not warranted IMHO.

In either case the end effect is the essentially the same. Either Sam is at MSFT and can continue to work with openAI IP, or he's back at openAI and do the same. In both cases the net effect for MSFT is similar and not materially different, although the revealed preference of Sam's return to openAI indicates the second option was the preferred one.

[Edit for grammar]

>>wokwok+(OP)
Absolutely no lies here. It was a dynamic situation and it wasn't at all clear that discussions with OAI board would lead to an outcome where sama returns as CEO.

Satya offered sama a way forward as a backup option.

And I think it says a lot about sama that he took that option, at least while things were playing out. He and Greg could have gotten together capital for a startup where they each had huge equity and made $$$$$$. These actions from sama demonstrate his level of commitment to execution on this technology.

>>wokwok+(OP)
Did you miss the part where Sam himself said he "decided to join MSFT on Sunday"?

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883

He's has now changed his mind, sure, but that doesn't mean Satya lied.

>>centur+a3
Only if people in the know took advantage of it.

>>wokwok+(OP)
Wait where are you getting that the hiring was a lie? At this point his tenure there was approximately as long as miras and emmets so that's par for the course in this saga, what makes that stint different?

>>Nathan+23
Also even if he signed it he's allowed to quit? Like, the 14th amendment exists y'all. And especially if after that agreement 90+ percent of openai threatens to quit, that's a different situation than the situation 10 minutes before that announcement so why wouldn't they change their decision?

>>wokwok+(OP)
will be joining =! has joined

>>qsi+v3
There is a material difference between:

Sam and Greg will be joining Microsoft.

And:

Sam and Greg have in principle agreed to join Microsoft but not signed anything.

If Microsoft has (now) agreed to release either of them (or anyone else) from contractual obligations, then the first one was true.

If not, then the first was was a lie, and the second one was true.

This whole drama has been punctuated by a great deal of speculation, pivots, changes and, bluntly, lies.

Why do we need to sugar coat it?

Where the fuck is this new magical Microsoft research lab?

Microsoft preparing a new office for openAI employees? Really? Is that also true?

Is Sam actually going to be on the board now, or is this another twist in this farcical drama when they blow it off again?

I see no reason to, at least point, give anyone involved the benefit of the doubt.

Once the board actually changes, or Microsoft actually does something, I’m happy to change my tune, but I’m calling what I see.

Sam did not join Microsoft at any point.