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I really did not think that would happen. I guess the obvious next question is what happens to Ilya? From this announcement it appears he is off the board. Is he still the chief scientist? I find it hard to believe he and Sam would be able to patch their relationship up well enough to work together so closely. Interesting that Adam stayed on the board, that seems to disprove many of the theories floating around here that he was the ringleader due to some perceived conflict of interest.

>>doctob+(OP)
I would be slightly more optimistic. They know each other quite well as well as how to work together to get big things done. Sometimes shit happens or someone makes a mistake. A simple apology can go a long way when it’s meant sincerely.

>>doctob+(OP)
From Ilya's perspective, not much seems to have changed. Sam sidelined him a month ago over their persistent disagreements about whether to pursue commercialisation as fast as Sam was. If Ilya is still sidelined, he probably quits and whichever company offers him the most control will get him. Same if he's fired. If he's un-sidelined as part of the deal, he probably stays on as Chief Scientist. Hopefully with less hostility from Sam now (lol).

>>xigenc+f7
Sam doesn't seem like the kind of person to apologise, particularly not after Ilya actually hit back. It seems Ilya won't be at OpenAI long and will have to pick whichever other company with compute will give him the most control.

>>xigenc+f7
Sam triple-hearted Ilya's apology tweet.

>>lucubr+ma
However, he does seem like the kind of person able to easily manipulate someone book-smart like Ilya into actually feeling guilty about the whole affair. He'll end up graciously forgiving Ilya in a way that will make him feel indebted to Sam.

>>doctob+(OP)
Strangely I think Ilya comes out of this well. He made a decision based on his values and what he believed was the best decision for AI safety. After seeing the outcome of that decision he changed his mind and owned that. He must have known it would result in the internet ridiculing him for flip flopping, but acted in what he thought was the best interest for the employees signing the letter. His actions are wroth criticism but I think his moral character has been demonstrated.

The other members of the board seemed to make their decision based on more personal reasons that seems to fit with Adams conflict of interest. They refused to communicate and only now accept any sort of responsibility for their actions and lack of plan.

Honestly Ilya is the only one of the 4 I would actually want still on the board. I think we need people who are willing to change direction based on new information especially in leadership positions despite it being messy, the world is messy.

>>doctob+(OP)
Sam will have no issue patching the relationship because he knows how a business relationship works. Besides, Ilya kissed the ring as evidenced by his tweet.

>>bkyan+sg
Well yeah... if Ilya hadn't flipped the board would still have the upper hand and Sam would not be back as CEO.

>>lucubr+ca
Ilya is just naive, imho. Bright but just too idealistic and hypothesizing about AGI, and not seeing that this is now ONLY about making money from LLMs, and nothing more. All the AGI stuff is just a facade for that.