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I’m taking about the ultimate end product that Microsoft and OpenAI want to create.

So I mean proper AGI.

Naming the product Clippy now is perfectly fine while it’s just an LLM and will be more excellent over the years when it eventually achieves AGI ness.

At least in this forum can we please stop misinterpreting things in a limited way to make pedantic points about how LLMs aren’t AGI (which I assume 98% of people here know). So I think it’s funny you assume I think chatgpt is an AGI.

>>prepen+(OP)
I think that the dispute is about whether or not AGI is possible (at least withing the next several decades). One camp seems to be operating with the assumption that not only is it possible, but it's imminent. The other camp is saying that they've seen little reason to think that it is.

(I'm in the latter camp).

>>JohnFe+Ca
I certainly think it’s possible but have no idea how close. Maybe it’s 50 years, maybe it’s next year.

Either way, I think GGP’s comment was not applicable based on my comment as written and certainly my intent.

>>prepen+(OP)
Is there a know path from an LLM to AGI? I have not seen or read anything the suggests LLMs bring us any closer to AGI.

>>JohnFe+Ca
I am with you. I am VERY excited about LLMs but I don't see a path from an LLM to AGI. Its like 50 years ago when we thought computers themselves brought us one step away from AI.

>>prepen+(OP)
It's entirely possible for Microsoft and OpenAI to have an unattainable goal in AGI. A computer that knows everything that has ever happened and can deduce much of what will come in the future is still likely going to be a machine, a very accurate one - it won't be able to imagine a future that it can't predict as a possible/potential natural/or made progression along a chain of consequences stemming from the present or past.