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1. 9dev+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:47:17
Ha! Tell that to the species of primates that will happily squeeze even the last ounce of resources from the only habitable planet they have, to enrich said shareholders. Humans are really bad in assessing situations larger than their immediate family, and this is no exception.
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2. imgabe+b8[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:33:28
>>9dev+(OP)
> Humans are really bad in assessing situations larger than their immediate family, and this is no exception.

As far as we can tell humans are the only species that even has the capacity to recognize such things as “resources” and produce forecasts of their limits. Literally every other species is kept in check by either consuming resources until they run out or predation. We are not unique in this regard.

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3. 9dev+Qk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 10:59:40
>>imgabe+b8
And I never claimed otherwise. We might be aware of the problems we cause, but that doesn't seem to imply we're able to fix them -- we're still primates after all.
4. Applej+Is[view] [source] 2023-11-20 11:51:01
>>9dev+(OP)
The really interesting question is whether AI, provided with superhuman inference, is better at this than humans. All the most powerful humans remain relentlessly human, and sometimes show it to tragic and/or laughable effect.

To some extent human societies viewed as eusocial organisms are better at this than individual humans. And rightly so, because human follies can have catastrophic effects on the society/organism.

5. mlrtim+0v[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:07:49
>>9dev+(OP)
>Humans are really bad in assessing situations larger than their immediate family

Agreed, and we're also bad at being told what to do. Especially when someone says they know better than us.

What we are extremely good at is adaptation and technological advancement. Since we know this already , why do we try to stop or slow progress.

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6. 9dev+Uv[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 12:15:09
>>mlrtim+0v
That is no reason to throw all ethic considerations over board. We have ethics panels on scientific studies for a very good reason, unless you want to let Dr. Mengele and his friends decide on progress.

It is a good thing that society has mechanisms to at least try and control the rate of progress.

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7. mlrtim+fG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 13:19:30
>>9dev+Uv
There is no objective ethic considerations, furthermore the events unfolding now have absolutely 0 evidence that "ALL" ethic considerations are being thrown overboard.

Godwin's Law.

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