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1. BSDobe+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:29:59
Honest question, why is he the best CEO?
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2. bluebl+91[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:34:46
>>BSDobe+(OP)
The CEO's job is to enrich the shareholders and by that metric he has done a pretty good job. More qualitatively, being able to change Microsoft's trajectory from boring enterprise tech company to a tech leader with strategic deals (OpenAI, Github) is very impressive.
3. skc+y1[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:36:58
>>BSDobe+(OP)
Presumably because MSFT is the most highly diversified tech company on the planet and he's overseeing multiple billion dollar businesses there without breaking a sweat.

Not to mention the only big tech that seems to have a coherent AI strategy at the moment.

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4. kmlevi+K1[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:37:34
>>BSDobe+(OP)
For a quick overview, google Microsoft stock and take a look at what happened to it after he became CEO in February 2014. It had been farting along at $24-35 a share with little lasting change since 2000. As soon as he got involved it started rising stratospherically and is now at about $360. Partnering with openAI turned out to be a brilliant idea that has helped them corner a brand new market. And poaching perhaps half their staff after an unforced error by their board is even shrewder.
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5. v4dok+62[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:39:06
>>BSDobe+(OP)
He was a marketing person I believe when Bill was in MSFT. To become the CEO of MSFT is a huge political and competence firewall already. Then to do the most spectacular transformation of a mega-corp is next-level. MSFT is now the leading player in AI, while before it was still fucking around with office and Windows licenses. People who are young (not saying you are), and don't remember what MSFT was before Satya, don't really get that MSFT would be like Oracle and IBM if not for Satya.
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6. 9dev+A3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:45:11
>>v4dok+62
As far as I know, he actually came from an engineering background, making his career even more impressive. Despite my views on Microsoft and shareholder-oriented capitalism, he certainly seems like a brilliant and genuinely interesting guy.
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7. Araina+a4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:48:17
>>skc+y1
To be fair, MSFT was the most diversified tech company prior to his arrival - Google had Search, Facebook had Facebook, Apple had hardware. Microsoft by then had perhaps a dozen products with a billion dollars or more of revenue (Windows, Office, Sharepoint, Exchange, XBox, Azure, Surface, among others). Satya did well to focus on the cloud and grow opportunities there, but he hasn't significantly increased the diversity of the product lineup.
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8. DavidK+z8[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:13:06
>>BSDobe+(OP)
I will never forget something I read in his "Hit Refresh" book(I'm Microsoft employee)... He wrote something along the lines, Office should write best app for iPhone, Mac or even Linux if that helps them grow. They should not help Windows sell Windows copies by doing better Office features on Windows, it is up to Windows team to make Windows best operating system, it should not rely and keep back Office team... This makes Windows and Office better, because it allows Office to be free and do what they need to grow, and it forces Windows to improve OS and not rely on others... Just one example where CEO can help teams grow...
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9. BSDobe+c9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 09:17:27
>>DavidK+z8
That's definitely a shift from the "platform" thinking Microsoft had, thanks for the inside view.
10. jacque+u9[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:18:32
>>BSDobe+(OP)
He managed to make the whole open source world forget who enemy #1 is and got them to give him privileged access to all of their work product on his terms. That's no mean feat.
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11. laserl+Ca[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 09:25:21
>>kmlevi+K1
February 2014 -> October 2023:

  AAPL: 18.79 -> 170.77 (9.08x)

  MSFT: 38.31 -> 338.11 (8.82x)

  AMZN: 18.10 -> 133.09 (7.35x)

  META: 68.46 -> 301.27 (4.40x)

  GOOG: 30.28 -> 125.30 (4.14x)
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12. stoobs+Fd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 09:43:38
>>laserl+Ca
That doesn’t tell the whole story due to stock splits etc changing the unit stock price.
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13. grutur+Ce[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:47:33
>>BSDobe+(OP)
He performed an unbelievable turnaround. His predecessor, famed for sweating a lot, yelling (sometimes positively, not necessarily in anger), throwing chairs and insisting on giving the keynote speech every year at MWC while being irrelevant, was driving the company into the ground.

Satya reverted the course spectacularly - and most importantly, he did NOT miss the "once-in-a-lifetime" opportunity which he had. Unlike Billg (who missed the dawn of the Internet) and the chair-throwing dude (who fumbled Mobile), Satya is making sure Microsoft does NOT miss AI. Which is even more impressive as Google was kind of expected to be the winner initially, given the whole company's focus , mission statement ("to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful") and a considerable (at the time) lead, if not a moat.

I dare to compare his turnaround to Jobs'. Sure, MSFT wasn't weeks away from insolvency when he took over, and some of their current successes were indeed started before his tenure, but just look at where Windows 8 was going.

*Edit: Just as a clarification: Not an employee, I actually dislike them profoundly and would never join them. I'm not sure this move is the best outcome for mankind - but credit where credit's due, they were shrewd, smart and right on time. Hats off.

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14. cma+Vg[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 10:02:30
>>laserl+Ca
Need to account for splits and reinvesting dividends.
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15. mdemar+0h[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 10:02:54
>>stoobs+Fd
No, stock splits are included.
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16. Bishon+xi[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 10:12:57
>>DavidK+z8
That's a nice vision, but as someone who transitioned from a windows to mac a few years ago, I'm sad to report that reality isn't anything like it. Office for mac is lightyears behind what windows has. Both excel and outlook miss critical features (just last week I was looking to change the background of an email - seems that's impossible on mac), or are so much worse in terms of performance (~20mb file with pivot tables) that I'm not sure if I'm running Excel on my m1 mac or if it's a raspberry pi.
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17. noprom+qr[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 11:17:59
>>v4dok+62
Marketing person? LOL

The guy was born in the cloud compute division.

The board saw cloud compute was gonna be big. They made him the king. Good bet. The whole company went all in on cloud. Now they print more money than before.

Marketing person lol. He's an engineer. The guy literally gets back into VS code sometimes to stay in touch.

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18. chucke+Ps[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 11:26:50
>>grutur+Ce
The problem with Google is that it is being run by the bunch of nerds. Sure, they are smart but without ad revenue they would gave gone down long time ago...

Bill missing the whole web stuff was more about their lawsuit because regulators believed that only through the browser on Windows people could access the internet. Which was a wrong prediction.

And Ballmer...Yeah. He fumbled hard with mobile. And thanks to the board stopping from buying Yahoo. Would be another AT&T merger fiasco.

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19. chucke+qt[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 11:29:53
>>Araina+a4
I would say it has more or less equal revenue streams in comparison to other tech giants.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff8RCKwUcAEkWk_?format=jpg&name=...

If you look at the charts with revenue streams - Microsoft is the most diversified in that regard, because basically each and every branch of Microsoft produces the similar amount of revenue.

With Xbox getting Activision it lifts up More Personal Computing to the level, comparable to other streams (and even higher than Windows).

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20. stoobs+lw[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 11:48:32
>>mdemar+0h
I stand corrected :)
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21. saiya-+FB[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 12:27:51
>>grutur+Ce
As a user and not shareholder, I simply can't agree with this sentiment.

Windows got massively worse during his tenure in literally everything that can get worse including half-legal snooping on all users including Enterprise ones (I stand by the statement that this is idiotic long term strategy driven by childish emotions like FOMO - no way he didn't have a direct say in this).

Office is certainly PITA and getting worse in my experience, but that can be corporate modifications/restrictions I am exposed to.

Teams was, is and probably forever will be pathetic, buggy, slow and just a bad joke compared to some competition with 1% of their budget.

These are core extremely visible products and for most of mankind 100% of the surface with MS. There is not even an attempt for corrections, direction is set and rest are details.

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22. grutur+tM[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 13:29:08
>>chucke+Ps
The problems with Google in my own personal experience and POV indeed pretty much coincide with the end of Eric Schmidt's tenure as CEO. It's sad, as a nerd, but it started going to shit when the nerds got in the driving seat, and of course much worse once they stopped caring altogether and left Sundar at the helm.

With billg missing the dawn of the Internet, I didn't mean the IE integration fiasco and the resulting lawsuit - that's actually the part they got more or less right (in their own perverted 3E approach, not according to my moral compass), but too late to become dominant. They first wasted time trying to create their own MSN walled garden a la Compuserve .

To Ballmer's credit he did start Azure, although it doesn't feel it was a serious enough effort, until he was replaced. But between Vista, Windows 8, Windows Mobile, Nokia, Skype, Zune, Kin, etc etc... it's no wonder it's been called Microsoft's lost decade.

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23. grutur+MS[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 13:53:52
>>saiya-+FB
I fully, fully concur with the experience as a user. Sadly that's irrelevant to their financials - first of all this is now what, 5% of their revenue stream?

And despite the shittiness, even that 5% is doing great because their audience is now billions of mostly computer-illiterate people, who don't even have an opinion on the technical merits, the performance, the bugginess, the snooping, the feature gap, etc etc etc.

The opinion of few million geeks who are mostly not using Windows anyway (or whose only contacts with anything Microsoft are due to their employers' choice of platform) doesn't ultimately matter much, Microsoft knows it, and they have no reason to change direction despite our frustration. Some better privacy law could nudge them, anything short of a legal directive won't go far.

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24. devnul+a61[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 14:38:49
>>DavidK+z8
'eat your own lunch before someone else does'
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25. Maken+vz1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 17:11:22
>>DavidK+z8
It's not like MS could do any other thing after being wiped out of the smartphone market. Locking Office to Windows in an age where virtually everybody is using a smartphone or a tablet with either Android or iOS is useless. The situation of Office in either Mac or Linux never improved, it just got turned into a cloud service like almost any other software suite and tried to cash in the legacy name to compete with Google Docs and Zoho. I don't really see any brilliant move there.
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