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1. xiwenc+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:05:34
Care to elaborate? Microsoft funding OpenAI doesn’t grant them right to just grab intellectual properties.
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2. quotem+r[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:07:10
>>xiwenc+(OP)
Microsoft's deal with OpenAI grants Microsoft access to OpenAI's technology --- at least until AGI arrives
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3. tempus+y[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:07:26
>>xiwenc+(OP)
Microsoft also doesn’t give many GPUs to internal researchers so this has a long way to run yet.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Sam and Greg are back on the startup path by week end.

This just seems like PR to give MS a way to paper things over after such an abrupt firing.

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4. Abraha+C[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:07:36
>>xiwenc+(OP)
Weights are not intellectual property.
5. siva7+M[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:08:13
>>xiwenc+(OP)
It does except for the AGI. That was part of the multi-billion deal with Microsoft.
6. ascorb+U[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:08:27
>>xiwenc+(OP)
I don't know the full details, but their licence is clearly quite broad, as well as being exclusive and irrevocable.
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7. alsodu+O1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:12:18
>>tempus+y
What makes you think it wouldn't change after Sam and Greg join the team? AFAIK the reason Microsoft scaled down their research division (including GPUs) was because they were no where close to OpenAI despite years of investment.
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8. mullin+C4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:23:16
>>quotem+r
This is like a spacecraft research nonprofit working on faster than light travel promising Boeing 100% of the rights to any of their technology that's sub-light speed. I give even odds that they'll never achieve "AGI," or when it happens it'll be an incremental gain made by simply wiring existing technologies together that'll be obvious to any engineer competent in the field and thus easily duplicated.
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9. tempus+q6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:31:58
>>alsodu+O1
Not true MSFT has never given good GPUs hence why they never published any SOTA challenging models
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10. bagels+B8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:41:31
>>quotem+r
How is it decided that "AGI" has arrived?
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11. quotem+29[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:43:14
>>alsodu+O1
Sam is coming on as the CEO of a whole new group. This is like Cruise. Very exciting.
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12. quotem+L9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:46:50
>>bagels+B8
The OpenAI nonprofit board does, AIUI. That means OpenAI can, in theory, cut off everything from this day forward (by declaring GPT-5 or whatever as "AGI"), but they can't cut off access to GPT-4.
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