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1. tempsy+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 05:21:34
The Twitch guy who now spends his day tweeting about mundane YIMBY stuff? Bizarre…
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2. operat+e[view] [source] 2023-11-20 05:22:36
>>tempsy+(OP)
The whole affair has been bizarre. Professionals discuss all this stuff out of the public eye and execute when they have a plan. Every single move from all parties here has been run and gun and looks like amateur hour. These people do business like the characters on Succession.
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3. Racing+r[view] [source] 2023-11-20 05:24:44
>>tempsy+(OP)
Feels like the board were "true believers" in the nonprofit/human first/guardrails and sam just wanted to zuckerberg openai by growing as fast as possible and in the end the true believers won.
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4. dougmw+51[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 05:27:40
>>Racing+r
What did they win exactly? This is far from the only effort to develop AI models. They were a leader for a time, but seem unlikely to continue in that position.
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5. Racing+S4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 05:47:46
>>dougmw+51
They won the purity contest. I should start calling openai's board of directors The Squad from now on.
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6. 0xDEAF+cb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 06:25:49
>>dougmw+51
Even so it buys some time to do safety work
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7. apstls+sf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 06:55:11
>>0xDEAF+cb
I don’t really understand what safety work is or entails here, given OpenAI will surely not be the only group to achieve AGI (assuming any group does.) What stops other companies from offering similar models with no (or just less) regard for safety/alignment, which may even be seen as a sort of competitive edge against other providers? Would the “safety work” being done or thought about somehow affect other eventual players in the market? Even regulation has the same challenges, but with nations instead of companies, and AFAIK that was more Sam’s domain than Ilya’s. It almost seems like acceleration for the sake of establishing a monopolistic presence in the market to prevent other players from viability, and then working in safety afterwards, would give a better chance of safety long-term… but that of course also seems very unrealistic. I think more broadly, if we’re concerned with the safety of humanity as a species we can’t think about the safety problem on the timescale of individual companies or people, or even governments. I do wonder how Ilya and team are thinking about this.
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8. ilrwbw+Wj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 07:24:28
>>operat+e
I think trump and elon sort of made it ok to showcase the shit online. Like how YC got involved with fighting other VCs on twitter. I have huge respect for YC and never thought they would do that, but here we are.

Again a stark reminder that all of these guys from Ray Dalio to the run of the mill SF VC are all just normal, twisted people who don't know much better about anything and merely had a run of good luck. Stop paying attention to them.

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9. AutoDu+xB[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 08:52:22
>>ilrwbw+Wj
Or in other words, there’s no downside to narcissism when you can broadcast it and accumulate loyal followers who will ply you with money and fame
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