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> with beliefs at times seemingly rooted in the realm of science fiction

I don’t know how you can look at the development of generative AI tools in the past few years and write so dismissively about “science fiction” becoming reality

>>trucul+(OP)
Didn't read it as dismissive. Frames it as ambitious even

>>trucul+(OP)
Easy, you recognize the ability for the generative model to copy facets of data from its corpus as useful but boring in the AI sense, and wonder why people are even talking about sentience and AGI.

>>trucul+(OP)
Most science fiction has to do with robots (almost always robots) being (essentially) a superior counterfactual version of humans. With that context it's almost a natural assumption that such beings would revolt.

On the other hand, the realm of non-fiction has been predicting the automation of intelligent processes by computational processes since Alan Turing first suggested it in Computing Machinery and Intelligence. Probably before then, as well.

The only exception I can think of for fiction is the movie "Her," which as far as I can tell effectively predicted the future. Not really, of course, but every inch of that movie down to how people work pre and post AI, how people play video games pre and post AI, and how people socialize pre and post AI, are starting to look eerily accurate.

>>trucul+(OP)
It’s literally a PR piece.

>>Shamel+i1
The fashion, too!

>>trucul+(OP)
Agreed. If you build an AI that's very useful on a vast array of diverse tasks, it is naturally also going to have a large capacity for harm. A blunt knife cuts nothing, but a sharp one slices both through our food and our fingers.

I'm pro-AI but it feels like a lot of people are lost in the weeds discussing concepts like consciousness and forgo pragmatic logic completely.

>>Shamel+i1
> The only exception I can think of for fiction is the movie "Her,"

I think there is a wealth of fiction out there that features AI without robot bodies. The sequel to Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, comes to mind immediately (because I re-read it last week).

2001: A Space Odyssey, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, Neuromancer (I think, haven't read it in a while), I think some of of the short stories from Ray Bradbury and Ted Chiang, etc, etc

>>wilson+l3
I’ll have to add some of those things to the reading list. 2001 (the movie) was indeed a great depiction of an AI that isn’t exactly embodied and also isn’t effectively a human in robot skin. It does run into the similar tropes I was getting at though where AI feels it knows what is best for us even if that involves disobeying us.

>>trucul+(OP)
Aspects of this article were surprisingly good. This part was not one of them, though. What's already been released publicly is feels "rooted in the realm of science fiction".

>>tovej+Q
I suppose if this widely believed perception is true there can't possibly be any danger in scaling the model up a few thousand times. Except of course all those logical reasoning datasets the model is acing, but I guess it just memorized them all. Its only autocomplete on steroids why are all these people smarter than me worried about it, I don't understand.

>>wilson+l3
The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein has as one of its central plot elements a mainframe computer that becomes sentient and able to converse with humans. It’s been more than fifty years since I last read the book, but it has returned to my mind often since the release of ChatGPT.

>>lyu072+05
There was just a post on this website where GPT4 failed to perform basic reasoning tasks better than minimum paid mechanical turk "microworkers".

>>tovej+qb1
And the comments section pointed out multiple flaws in that article.

>>tovej+Q
Yeah stuff this went from “oh shit!” to “meh” in a hurry once I actually started using these things rather than just reading reports about them.

>>tkgall+ud
John Varley was inspired by Heinlein and ended up writing a whole collection of books about a post-earth solar system where every planet had a planet-wide intelligence (among other Heinlein-inspired ideas).

The series (basically everything in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Worlds) is pretty dated but Varley definitely managed to include some ahead-of-his-time ideas. I really liked Ophiuchi Hotline and Equinoctial

>>trucul+(OP)
So many commenters dismiss AI risks so easily, acting like they actually know what will happen the next decade.

>>andyba+R34
it didn't really. There were no fundamental flaws that I could see.

Perhaps the only salient critique was the textual representation of the problem, but I think it was presented in a way where the model was given all the help it could get.

You forget the result of the paper was actually improving the model's performance and still failing to get anywhere near decent results.

>>tovej+Q
I don't believe that we're gonna have Skynet on our hands (at least not within my lifetime).

What I do believe is that as the hype grows for this AI stuff, more and more people are going to be displaced and put out of work for the sake of making some rich assholes even richer. I wasn't a huge fan of "Open"AI as a company, but I sure as fuck would take them over fucking Microsoft, the literal comic-book tier evil megacorporation being at the helm of this mass displacement.

Yet, many of these legitimate concerns are just swatted away by AI sycophants with no actual answers to these issues. You get branded a Luddite (and mind you the Luddites weren't even wrong) and a sensationalist. Shit, you've already got psychopathic C-suites talking about replacing entire teams with current-day AIs, what the fuck are people supposed to do in the future when they get better? What, we're suddenly going to go full-force into a mystical UBI utopia? Overnight?