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1. smolde+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 01:00:54
Beating OpenAI in a money-pissing competition is not their priority. I don't use Google or harbor much love for them, but the existence of AI does not detract from the value of advertising. If anything, it funnels more people into it as they're looking to monetize that which is unprofitable. ChatGPT is not YouTube; it doesn't print money.

Feel however you will about it, but people have been rattling this pan for decades now. Google's bottom line will exist until someone finds a better way to extract marginal revenue than advertising.

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2. p1esk+9a[view] [source] 2023-11-20 02:14:30
>>smolde+(OP)
Beating OpenAI in a money-pissing competition is not their priority

I bet Google has already spent an order of magnitude more money on GPT-4 rival development than OpenAI spent on GPT-4.

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3. smolde+vn[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 04:12:43
>>p1esk+9a
For the sake of your wallet, I hope you don't put money on that. Google certainly spends an order of magnitude more than OpenAI because they have been around longer than them, ship their own hardware and maintain their own inferencing library. The amount they spend on training their LLMs is the minority, full-stop.

I despise both of these companies, but Google's advantage here is so blatantly obvious that I struggle to see how you can even defend OpenAI like this.

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4. p1esk+ns[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 05:00:11
>>smolde+vn
Google's advantage here is so blatantly obvious

Exactly. Google has so much more resources, tries so hard to compete (it's literally life or death for them), and yet it's still so far behind. It's strange that you don't see that - if you haven't tried comparing Bard's output to GPT-4 for the same questions - try it, it will become obvious.

It's quite possible their rumored Gemini model might finally catch up with GPT-4 at some point in the future - probably around the time GPT-5 is released.

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5. smolde+fU1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 13:52:01
>>p1esk+ns
If you see "beating GPT-4" as an actual goalpost, then sure. Google doesn't; their output reflects that.
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