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1. shivaw+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-20 00:12:44
Exactly this. This incident has proven MSFT’s strong hands without a board seat and they don’t really need it if things do/did go off the rails.
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2. stingr+n2[view] [source] 2023-11-20 00:26:29
>>shivaw+(OP)
Isn’t the point that if MSFT had a board seat, this whole problem likely wouldn’t have happened in the first place?
replies(2): >>hn_thr+P6 >>jacque+ax
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3. hn_thr+P6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 00:52:32
>>stingr+n2
Not necessarily. They still would have needed to have a majority of board seats on their side - I mean, Brockman was chairman of the board and he didn't find out about all this until the machinations were complete.

Read a good a article about the history of the OpenAI board that argued this all went down due to the recent loss of 3 board members, bringing total board membership from 9 to 6 (including losses like Reid Hoffman, who never would have voted for something like this), and Altman wanted to increase board membership again. Likely the "Gang of Four" here saw this as their slim window to change the direction of OpenAI.

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4. Everdr+Tu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 04:06:28
>>hn_thr+P6
What’s the article? Sounds interesting
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5. jacque+ax[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 04:31:04
>>stingr+n2
Possibly but not certainly. It would have deadlocked the vote if a board member would have been replaced and it would have still passed if Microsoft had had an extra seat (4:2 -> 3:3) vs (4:2 -> 4:3) assuming the Microsoft representative to the board would vote against having Altman removed.

What I'm fairly sure of though is that if the board had been stocked with heavyweights rather than lightweights that this would have been handled in a procedural correct way with a lot more chance that it would stick.

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6. mikpan+xz[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 04:54:42
>>Everdr+Tu
https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board
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