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1. kranke+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:06:16
What a wild idea. You actually think of the most esteemed AI researchers will have trouble finding funding after this? Someone somewhere will give him money.

We’re in an arms race. Ilya is Otto Hahn.

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2. morale+W6[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:39:59
>>kranke+(OP)
Are you even following this?

>You actually think of the most esteemed AI researchers will have trouble finding funding after this?

Plenty of those actually left already ...

Ilya is good but is one of many, and by many I mean there's 100s of equally capable researchers, many of those with more flexible morals. Note: I'm being generous to Ilya and taking him at face value on being the self-proclaimed AI messiah that is keeping us from the destruction of the world.

Thanks Ilya, but money is money and investors would definitely prefer to put their money in a for-profit than a non-profit. This is even more true after this whole fiasco.

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3. JoeCor+Si[view] [source] 2023-11-19 22:37:14
>>kranke+(OP)
OpenAI will absolutely be able to raise money again, but it will likely never be on the same scale and will also likely have some serious safeguards in the contract language.

Whether you agree with investors agreeing with firing Sam or not, future investors will absolutely be nervous about sinking serious money in a company that split it's board without talking to key partners/investors first

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4. malfis+Sj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 22:41:50
>>morale+W6
Plenty haven't left. Depending on which article you read it's between 3 and 5. Which is nothing for a company the size of OpenAI
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5. morale+xo[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 23:06:56
>>malfis+Sj
Yeah man, whatever you say! :^)

https://twitter.com/rowancheung/status/1726060441103958481

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6. sainez+uu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 23:42:40
>>morale+xo
What is with the misinformation.

The original Verge article says (with no given sources): > missing a key 5PM PT deadline by which many OpenAI staffers were set to resign.

The tweet removes the qualifier: > The staff at OpenAI set a 5PM deadline for the entire board to resign, or else they quit and join Sam in his new company.

And you seem to parrot that point even though it is well past that deadline and no news of mass resignations

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7. morale+Ay[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 00:07:36
>>sainez+uu
It's all rumours yes, but I'd be inclined to believe that the majority of staff aligns with @sama, and not with Ilya and the board. If this wasn't true, Satya wouldn't be sitting right now in a room with them trying to put out the fire.
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8. timeon+yE[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 00:41:09
>>morale+Ay
This is not healthy approach. (In general. This particular drama is irrelevant for us.)

You are set on believes based on rumors.

Microsoft's power has nothing to do with OpenAI employees.

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9. morale+WA2[view] [source] 2023-11-20 13:49:30
>>kranke+(OP)
Update after a day:

Whoops, there goes your Otto Hahn, lol!

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10. morale+9B2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 13:50:08
>>timeon+yE
Whoops, turned out to be right :^).
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11. kranke+SH2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 14:11:41
>>morale+WA2
Otto Hahn is now saying he is very sorry and he was manipulated by the board. The plot continues.
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