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What’s up with comparing altman to steve jobs? He’s well behind him on the scale of leadership, inspiration, vision, and not to mention he had little to no contribution to ai, other than a crypto style aggressive marketing campaign, sprinkled with fud fomo and gaslighting.

>>gumbal+(OP)
Not saying you're wrong, but the analogy is easy to draw. Both are CEOs, both were ousted, both are charismatic, Apple is the most valuable company in history, and OpenAI is among the fastest growing in history.

>>gumbal+(OP)
Agreed. The cult of personality seems to have a strong grip on the US zeitgeist.

Technology is the new religion and Musk/Altman are the new messiahs, with Jobs and Gates as the patron saints.

>>bigyik+h51
Using analogy is often fallacy.

>>gumbal+(OP)
Yeah the abrupt vibe shift on HN with regards to altman is pretty odd. Suddenly he's a Jobs-esque product visionary?

>>bigyik+h51
Charismatic? Altman? Hmmmm

>>gumbal+(OP)
I think you're reading into it too much.

It's not a comparison of personal talent.

It's simply the best known case of a highly visible CEO of a popular, groundbreaking company being ousted by the board.

So the comparison is natural. Apple and OpenAI are definitely similarly groundbreaking companies in the eye of the consumer.

>>glitch+J51
It’s funny how those who most decry cults end up sounding so cultish.

The opposite of cult worship is NOT cult antipathy.

>>hello_+881
Jobs are so influential, Sam has his own kind of charisma and persona, as same as Musk.

>>glitch+J51
It’s mostly just this site and the SV delusion it’s connected with. I’d bet if you ask random Americans, they would have no idea who Altman even is.

>>ekms+V61
I remember when people loathed him on here. Worldcoin etc?

He seems slimy as hell and I’m giving Ilya the benefit of the doubt.

>>ekms+V61
Undoubtedly, there are a lot of HN posters with a vested interest in OpenAI's continued success… Talk is cheap when it doesn't affect your bottom line.

>>brooks+Xc1
While sounding pithy, this is logically flawed. The opposite of theism is atheism, not agnosticism.

>>the_on+Pd1
Nah, you can replace Sam with a deity of choice depending on the group, ex. Taylor Swift.

As organized religion recedes, people fill the vacuum with gods of their own making.

>>gumbal+(OP)
This is a site run by YCombinator. Altman is Paul Graham's bud, and YCombinator alumni.

>>ryeigh+gk1
That’s an interesting point. Many folks may have started companies around openai’s product, thus defending their turf. Probably fearing they might be freed if the new ceo decides to lock api access.