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1. userna+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-19 09:14:41
That's probably the most illuminating article on the whole situation I've seen, and it's just because it includes one key fact.

The board went from 10 people to 6 in the span of a year. That explains absolutely everything that happened at OpenAI.

Why couldn't we get that little tidbit from a media publication?

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2. robg+Od[view] [source] 2023-11-19 11:25:58
>>userna+(OP)
100%, for all the palace intrigue, this mismanagement / misalignment of the Board has been stewing for a while.
3. layer8+jf[view] [source] 2023-11-19 11:41:32
>>userna+(OP)
I don’t remember which media publication, but at least one of the ones posted on HN on Friday/Saturday noted that three board members had resigned this year, and it was also mentioned in related HN threads that this is probably what has made Friday's vote possible in the first place.

Edit: This one for example: https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/17/openai-sam-altman-firing-b...

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4. userna+dN[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 15:58:23
>>layer8+jf
Maybe that's true, but I can't read every single one of them. I don't think I saw anything in Ars's in-depth article recaping the whole drama or "the Verge"'s reporting. Though as can be expected, I skimmed most of what I read, it makes no sense to re-read the same information re-told again and again by different writers.

In any case, finding out the key fact about a situation shouldn't require reading multiple articles by different publications. It should have been highly emphasized in any publication's reporting.

5. chubot+gU[view] [source] 2023-11-19 16:34:04
>>userna+(OP)
Yeah it definitely paints a picture of struggling to keep a board together because AI is "hot", and so many people have conflicts.

It does seem like the whole organization was "born in conflict", starting with Elon and Sam.

Then Reid resigned because of a COI, someone whose wife helped start the "offshoot" Anthropic, and then there was Elon's employee and mother of his children, etc.

I was going to say that some reporters weren't doing their jobs this whole time, but actually there are good links in the article, like this

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-13/republica...

It was reported that 3 directors left in 2023.

But yeah I agree it's weird that none of the breathless and short articles even linked to that one!!! (as far as I remember) That's a huge factor in what happened.

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6. TeMPOr+8e2[view] [source] 2023-11-19 22:47:48
>>userna+(OP)
> The board went from 10 people to 6 in the span of a year. That explains absolutely everything that happened at OpenAI.

Could you elaborate? This explains exactly nothing to me.

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7. gwern+RTq[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-27 16:19:07
>>chubot+gU
re Reid Hoffman: https://www.semafor.com/article/11/19/2023/reid-hoffman-was-...
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