zlacker

On the other hand having virtually the whole staff being willing to follow him shows they clearly think very highly of him. That kind of loyalty is pretty wild when you think about how significant being a part of OPENAI means at this point.

>>TapWat+(OP)
They probably just asked a couple of guys.

>>TapWat+(OP)
Loyalty is not earned, it is more like 'snared' or 'captured'.

Local guy had all the loyalty of his employees, almost a hero to them.

Got bought out. He took all the money for himself, left the employees with nothing. Many got laid off.

Result? Still loyal. Still talk of him as a hero. Even though he obviously screwed them, cared nothing for them, betrayed them.

Loyalty is strange. Born of charisma and empty talk that's all emotion and no substance. Gathering it is more the skill of a salesman than a leader.

>>JoeAlt+a8
He screwed them how? They knew they were employees not co owners.

>>lozeng+9g
That's the whole point of the story: Then they wouldn't have treated him as a hero and be loyal to him. If you're just an employee, your boss should be just a boss.

>>TapWat+(OP)
Who knows if they follow him or just don't want to work for OpenAI anymore.

That are different things.

>>TapWat+(OP)
Which news stories mentioned that virtually the whole staff was leaving? I saw a bunch of departures announced and others rumored to be upcoming, but no discussion of what percentage of the company was leaving.

>>iforgo+hh
It’s possible he paid well and was a great boss. I don’t know if these people are gonna take a bullet for him, but maybe he was great to work for and they got opportunities they think they wouldn’t have otherwise.

Loyalty, appreciation, liking… is a spectrum. Loyalty doesn’t have one trumpish definition.

>>JoeAlt+a8
Loyalty is absolutely earned.

>>lozeng+9g
Said like a follower, determined to be loyal to an imagined hero, despite any amount of evidence to the contrary.

>>code_r+Lp
They worked hard, overtime, so the company would succeed. They were promised endless rewards - "I'm gonna take care of you! We're in this together!"

Then, bupkiss.

No, not a hero.