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1. sudosy+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:11:23
Why would the entire org follow Sam instead of Ilya?
replies(1): >>comfys+c2
2. comfys+c2[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:29:20
>>sudosy+(OP)
Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of the authors source.

If I worked there, I would keep my job and see how things shake out. If I don’t like it, then I start looking. What I don’t do is risk my well being to take sides in a war between people way richer than me.

replies(1): >>jacque+67
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3. jacque+67[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 04:00:19
>>comfys+c2
That makes good sense and I think all those that are not independently wealthy already except personal friends of either Sam or high level remainers are going to do something quite similar. It's just too fluid a situation to make good decisions, especially if your livelihood is at stake, better not to make decisions that can't be easily undone.
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4. sillys+V9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 04:23:29
>>jacque+67
Given that the total comp package is $300k base + $600k profit share, I don’t think any of their livelihoods are at stake. >>36460082

You’re probably right because people usually don’t have an appetite for risk, but OpenAI is still a startup, and one does not join a startup without an appetite for risk. At least before ChatGPT made the company famous, which was recent.

I’d follow Sam and Greg. But N=1 outsider isn’t too persuasive.

replies(2): >>jacque+nd >>elcrit+5u
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5. jacque+nd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 04:51:51
>>sillys+V9
> I’d follow Sam and Greg.

Once the avalanche has stopped moving that's a free decision, right now it could be costly.

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6. elcrit+5u[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 07:42:35
>>sillys+V9
OpenAI isn’t a normal startup. It was founded as a research focused not for profit. That 300k+ base comp isn’t what I’d consider “risky” either. Career wise it never seemed risky as some of the fields top AI researchers were there from day almost one.
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