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1. cthalu+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:57:12
It's still tough. They won't have the data used to train the model, which is an incredibly important part. There's a lot of existing competitors in this space with headstarts. There's no guarantee that the entire research organization will follow Sam even if they leave OpenAI - they're going to have a lot of offers and opportunities at other companies that have an advantage.

It's also not clear that this is a realistic scenario - Ilya is the real deal, and there's likely plenty of people that believe in him over Altman.

Of course, the company has also expanded massively under Altman in a more commercial environment, so there are probably quite a few people that believe in Altman over him.

I doubt either side ends up with the entire research organization. I think a very real possibility is both sides end up with less than half of what OpenAI had Friday morning.

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2. wesapi+u2[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:12:49
>>cthalu+(OP)
Isn't also because of OpenAI scraping the internet that companies got the walls up. How else is anyone able to gathering training data these days?
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3. astran+sl[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 05:42:17
>>wesapi+u2
Generally speaking for a base model this isn't nearly as important as it sounds because the specifics of the data don't matter as long as there's enough of it. You may remember this from high school as the central limit theorem.

For specific things like new words and facts this does matter, but I think they're not in real trouble as long as Wikipedia stays up.

4. smegge+Yl[view] [source] 2023-11-19 05:46:36
>>cthalu+(OP)
thing is they can team with people that probably have that data already. Say Microsoft switches teams to a hypothetical SamCo AI most of the internet has already been indexed by bing and wants to be indexed by bing as its the number 2 search engine. that mean they either have cached or access to pretty much everything SamCo could want to feed said AI. Reddit or Twitter for example would never cut bing off as it would cut off users. Microsoft could though block openai from further access to things like github linkedin.
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