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That assumes Altman competitor can outpace and outclass OpenAI and maybe it can. I know Anthropic came about from earlier disagreements and that didn’t slow OpenAIs innovation pace, certainly.

Everything just assumes that without Sam they’re worse off.

But what if, my gosh, they aren’t? What if innovation accelerates?

My point being is it’s useless to speculate that Altman starting a new business competing with OpenAI will be successful inherently. There’s more to it than that

>>no_wiz+(OP)
> Everything just assumes that without Sam they’re worse off.

But it's not just him is it?

>>qwytw+L3
Sure, I suppose not, but they aren’t losing everyone en masse. Simply Altman supporters so far.

I think a wait and see approach is better. I think we had some inner politics spill public because Altman needs to the public pressure to get his job back, if I was speculating

>>no_wiz+(OP)
> Everything just assumes that without Sam they’re worse off. > > But what if, my gosh, they aren’t? What if innovation accelerates?

It reads like they ousted him because they wanted to slow the pace down, so by design and intent it would seem unlikely innovation would accelerate. Which seems doubly bad if they effectively spawned a competitor that is made up by all the other people that wanted to move faster

>>no_wiz+(OP)
The thing I really want to know is how many of the people who have already quit or have threatened to quit are actual researchers working on the base model, like Sutskever.