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1. fnordp+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:46:21
Microsoft has licensing rights to OpenAI tech. They do not “have it” in the sense they control it.
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2. lordfr+ev[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:58:50
>>fnordp+(OP)
Well I read Nadella threatened to turn off OpenAI's servers, so yeah, Microsoft does in fact control it.

Not your premises not your compute?

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3. fnordp+0s2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 18:09:53
>>lordfr+ev
Even threatening that, if disclosed publicly, would entirely threaten Azures business model. Cloud providers try to stay entirely neutral to their users business insofar as they don’t breach a ToS, law, or regulation forcing their actions. The entire business model is trusting a third party with the keys to your business. In my time working as a senior person at a cloud provider, then as a person setting system for major customers of cloud providers, this specific point was sacrosanct and invariant. Crossing that line would be a huge breach of the business model.

I think in this case I would need to see a source to believe you, and if substantiated, it would make me question Nadellas fitness to lead a cloud computing business.

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4. lordfr+913[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 20:55:05
>>fnordp+0s2
Can't find the original thing I read with a more direct statement, I remember it being an anonymous source (on twitter maybe?) with inside info. I did more digging and found a few other things.

There's this [1], a NYT article saying that Microsoft is leading the pressure campaign to get Altman reinstated.

And there's this [2], a Forbes article which claims the playbook is a combination of mass internal revolt, withheld cloud computing credits from Microsoft, and a lawsuit from investors.

[1] https://archive.is/fEVTK#selection-517.0-521.120

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/11/18/openai-in...

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