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1. Andrew+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:07:25
You know, I always found Mike judge to probably be the most prescient of all of the science fiction authors.

In Office Space, Idiocracy, and most relevant here in Silicon Valley; he accurately, and very precisely not only forecasts, but deconstructs the reasoning, and vapid lack of core philosophy behind each of the real life narratives he’s parodying.

That serious people still consider Silicon Valley as some kind of thing to aspire to is horrifying. This despite repeated examples of predictably base incompetence, lack of maturity and quite frankly avaricious opportunism as the kernel on which SV lies.

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2. pauldd+X1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:16:39
>>Andrew+(OP)
SV... Like high tech companies? Venture capital? The TV show? What do you mean by that?
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3. coreth+I2[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:19:25
>>Andrew+(OP)
What you're not realizing is that it's like this everywhere. It's not exclusive to SV. Politics is part of human life. Adults are just kids with money.
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4. latort+J2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:19:27
>>pauldd+X1
Mentioned in the same sentence as Idiocracy and Office Space, GP is referring to the show.
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5. caturo+X2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:21:00
>>pauldd+X1
The TV show. They were talking about filmmaker Mike Judge's work.
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6. pauldd+a3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:22:12
>>latort+J2
Oh, well SV is a comedy.

This is the first time I've heard it being aspirational.

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7. hnrode+m3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:23:12
>>pauldd+X1
Assuming the show since the reference is to Mike Judge, and he’s the creator of the SV tv show.
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8. Clubbe+W3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:25:57
>>coreth+I2
SV can afford to pay a lot more journalists writing puff pieces about how great they are.
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9. cmrdpo+e4[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:27:07
>>Andrew+(OP)
I recognize the brilliance of SV (the show) but couldn't make it past a few episodes because it was just too painfully close to home.

Now that I work for a non-tech, non-SV company (agricultural equip manufacturer in fact), and have some distance from the real world SV, maybe I could watch it without my skin crawling.

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10. Immova+M4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:30:32
>>pauldd+X1
Im assuming they mean Silicon Valley the TV show [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)

11. tsunam+O4[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:30:38
>>Andrew+(OP)
Or real life is just messy but most people don’t know it because they willfully ignore it and just keep their head down living their boring middle class life.

Judge is no profit he just communicated what the rest of us already knew.

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12. rlt+V4[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:31:16
>>Andrew+(OP)
And yet an enormous amount of innovation and wealth is created in Silicon Valley.
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13. coreth+c6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:37:49
>>Clubbe+W3
Right So if adults are just kids with money, SV is full of kids with even more money.
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14. chongl+07[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:42:15
>>pauldd+a3
It’s a satire. Maybe not on Orwell or Vonnegut levels, but definitely a lot more than just a comedy.
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15. defros+37[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:42:27
>>rlt+V4
And once upon a time Paris was the Prime Meridian and the British Empire was the dominant super power that spanned the globe.

It's worth asking how rapidly can, say, a global finnacial hub transfer from one location to another, how quickly a centre for excellence can transfer, how many years does it take for the world's best space scientists to move out of Germany, etc.

Does Silicon Valley have a tipping point?

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16. Aeolun+i7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:43:47
>>tsunam+O4
Maybe most things are not messy, and only thr messy things are exiting enough for you to not call them ‘boring middle class lives’?
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17. chatma+W7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:48:29
>>cmrdpo+e4
I found the episodes legitimately stressful to watch. "Too close to home" is exactly right. I grimaced through them though. And nowadays I do enjoy watching the "best of" clips on YouTube, or linking my coworkers to whatever scene from the show is relevant to the current meeting...
18. yodsan+98[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:49:06
>>Andrew+(OP)
Silicon Valley is really a great show. Working in tech, I often think of it. Especially whenever there's a new great idea from management that nobody saw coming and feel like the beginning of a new episode.
19. shrubb+E9[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:55:16
>>Andrew+(OP)
When Michael Lewis wrote the book about Wall Street, 'Liar's Poker' , he got calls from parents of college-bound kids, not about how to avoid Wall Street, but about how to better prepare for getting in to Wall Street...
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20. metada+ab[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:01:53
>>shrubb+E9
Rich people heard about a book and didn't bother to read it before contact.

I've heard this lore before, and it's the only way I can make sense of it.

21. dehrma+kb[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:02:31
>>Andrew+(OP)
Did you intentionally omit Beavis and Butt-Head from your list of his iconic works? They captured the mood of a generation.
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22. bcrosb+jc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:06:58
>>coreth+I2
The difference between some adults and toddlers if we've written off the adults as unfixable.
23. pembro+td[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:13:17
>>Andrew+(OP)
This is such a weird take.

You do understand the whole point of silicon valley is the chaotic lack of maturity?

You cannot be staid and conservative and mature (and non-opportunistic)…and also be successful at creating new and interesting stuff.

If you find instability “horrifying,” might I suggest a job in banking or the federal government instead?

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24. tsunam+JH[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 03:32:54
>>Aeolun+i7
No, that’s how I know you’ve never been an executive. It’s constantly messy and personal AF. It’s just the workers below who don’t see it and cash in their checks. You live a stable life because you are shielded from the chaos to keep you productive.
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25. Aeolun+US3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 01:00:18
>>tsunam+JH
You have a hilariously significant misunderstanding of what my work looks like. Maybe my standards for what constitutes ‘normal’ are just skewed.

Though it’s fair to say I’ve never been an executive.

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