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Berkeley Mono Typeface

submitted by gjvc+(OP) on 2023-11-18 18:32:03 | 344 points 132 comments
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3. jdthed+C8[view] [source] 2023-11-18 19:21:49
>>gjvc+(OP)
I recently discovered Monaspace [0] and was fairly impressed by its texture healing feature, besides generally looking nice. And it's free.

[0] https://monaspace.githubnext.com/

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10. logbis+Rb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 19:40:37
>>jdthed+C8
Every so often I go on a “font bender” and start searching for my “next great coding font”. I’ve been using Hack (https://sourcefoundry.org/hack/) for several years, but after looking at this I might need to give it a try. It looks really nice and the price is right. The font in the OP looks great too, but I can’t bring myself to pay for it. Not when there’s so many great alternatives out there at no cost.
14. ChrisA+Id[view] [source] 2023-11-18 19:53:02
>>gjvc+(OP)
Anything new here?

Bunch of discussion last year on a Show HN:

>>30557557

The ligatures were released earlier this year: >>34583520

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15. airstr+Td[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 19:54:24
>>logbis+Rb
I was the same until I started using Fira Code and don't think I'll ever go back to anything else. the ligatures are worth it

https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode

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20. Cockbr+Ke[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 19:58:17
>>jdthed+C8
Monaspace has been on the HN frontpage a few days ago: >>38210574
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25. manana+zf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 20:03:31
>>logbis+Rb
One class of alternatives you could also consider is narrow fonts like PragmataPro[1] (commercial) or Iosevka[2] (gratis, FOSS). Being able to fit more stuff onto the screen side-by-side is what enabled me to get as much into tmux as I have.

[1] https://www.fsd.it/shop/fonts/pragmatapro/

[2] https://typeof.net/Iosevka/

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26. bayind+Of[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 20:04:42
>>airstr+Td
Hack is very underrated and awesome. Fira Code is nice, so is Adobe Source Code Pro [0], and Iosevka [1]. Yet, Berkeley is truly at its own level.

[0]: https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-code-pro

[1]: https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka

44. solard+al[view] [source] 2023-11-18 20:37:53
>>gjvc+(OP)
IMO this is pretty hard to read. And why are there two different glyphs for the number 0?

Jetbrains Mono, which is also FOSS, seems nicer: https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/mono/

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48. gala8y+vo[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 20:54:59
>>jdthed+C8
As for free, monospaced fonts, there is also FiraCode.

Fira Code: free monospaced font with programming ligatures

https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode

EDIT: @airstrike beat me to it. Anyway, that's my favorite.

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62. flobos+Tx[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 21:47:47
>>logbis+yr
> Maybe there is now

You’re right! Check out the NL (no ligature) version: https://github.com/JetBrains/JetBrainsMono/tree/master/fonts...

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70. neilpa+LD[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 22:23:39
>>Avshal+lz
Woahhh, I've never played around with APL before. Such an interesting language: https://tryapl.org/

I think most of the glyphs are straightforward, the ones that would take time are the greek symbols. Unable to commit at this time, we're already behind with Berkeley v2 release by 6 months! :-(

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71. tap-sn+wE[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 22:27:35
>>broodb+Nt
There are so many good and free ones that I won't bother. I use SF Pro and Mono but I get bored and change to something else every year or two.

https://developer.apple.com/fonts/

76. notaha+0H[view] [source] 2023-11-18 22:41:50
>>gjvc+(OP)
Has anyone successfully turned this into a nerd font? I'd love to know it works before handing over my $75.

Update: I tried the font patcher on the trial version, but it didn't work. The font patcher ran successfully, and I can see all the added glyphs in Font Book on my Mac, but the glyphs don't work in my terminal.

Output from the font patcher is here: https://app.warp.dev/block/sWNVtsGQkYqvaa3HXa0eFN

Further update: Works in iTerm2, but not in Warp. The plot thickens!

Further further update: Some removing and restarting and reinstalling fixed it! I think Warp was caching something.

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86. joveia+LQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 23:30:58
>>mappu+Ts
Intel One Mono. Not extremely different from Berkeley Mono it looks like but lower x-height, higher line height, more space around letters, and a number of smallish differences (mostly in the lower case letters and numbers and round dots instead of square). Intel has the extra visible {} and non-continuous % while Berkeley Mono has the funky @.

https://github.com/intel/intel-one-mono

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92. neilpa+NW[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:00:36
>>notaha+0H
Idk about trial, but the full version has no issue with patching, try these instructions and see if it works: https://twitter.com/thorstenball/status/1629396583983853764
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95. inferi+s31[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 00:37:44
>>catlov+YL
No, it's not free. Fonts are incredibly labor intensive and require both artistic and technical skill. $75 for a family of well designed fonts pretty much at the bottom of the barrel for paid fonts. Check out the pricing for a single variant of something like Helvetica or FF Meta some time. A single family may very well be someone's entire life's work. Same reason that you get paid to bang on a keyboard while open source exists.

That said I've not bought Berkeley Mono, and probably won't (mostly because the style isn't quite to my current taste). I've bought fonts in the past, typically drawing the piracy line when I make money from a font (e.g. letterhead, business cards). Over the past two decades the list includes: Bell Centennial and Bell Gothic (great at small sizes), FF Meta and FF Zwo (for copy), and FF Mister K (uses ligatures to create a more organic looking handwriting font).

Much like with other software there are great free alternatives that pop up every once in a while on HN when the topic of coding fonts comes up. Fira Code (by Erik Spiekermann of FF fame), Plex (IBM), Source Code (Adobe), Cascadia (Microsoft), and JetBrains Mono (duh). Notice that they're all backed by large orgs — again, fonts are a ton of work. Contrast that with something like B612 (Airbus) which is cool but also basically abandonware and lacks the fit and finish of the previous fonts.

If you want the retro vibe and are okay pirating abandonware, the guy at int10h.org maintains a collection of fonts scraped from vintage ROMs[0]. But again these lack the polish you may be used to as they're way out of their element on modern systems.

Me? I'm currently using M+ Code 60[1] (Coji Morishita backed by Google) as a daily driver[2]. I'm enamored with its slightly quirky style (just enough to keep me interested) and its legibility as a console font.

0: https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist/

1: https://mplusfonts.github.io

2: https://i.imgur.com/AG2IbT0.png

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100. treali+191[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 01:15:53
>>tmtvl+ZZ
You could try Sarasa Gothic, which is made by the same person who made Iosevka.

Github Link: https://github.com/be5invis/Sarasa-Gothic

Specimen (made by someone else): https://picaq.github.io/sarasa/

There's also mplus 1 code:

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/M+PLUS+1+Code

https://mplusfonts.github.io/

107. fireca+vv1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:45:06
>>gjvc+(OP)
This does look very nice!

Still, I often go back to what I know and what I got used to as the default on the OS.

So, as a macOS user, I work with Apple's SF Mono:

  https://developer.apple.com/fonts/


I tried hard to get along with JetBrains Mono, but in the end I just didn't enjoy their ligatures!

Also, I never get bored of discussions on what dev monospace fonts people use! :-D

116. alexru+Qs2[view] [source] 2023-11-19 12:58:46
>>gjvc+(OP)
Berkeley Mono is also my favourite font. I use it in the terminal, editor and for my IDE. It's a bit expensive, and I can understand if someone can't or doesn't want to spend money on it. I would recommend to check out the free fonts 'JetBrains Mono' & 'Hack' to these people.

Some people have already mentioned here that Berkeley Mono is not available as Nerd Font. I would like to briefly point out that Nerd Fonts provides a font patcher tool (https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts#font-patcher).

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122. gjvc+kA2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 14:06:55
>>ChrisA+Yx2
Clearly lots of people find it useful; just look at the number of comments and upvotes it gets.

All you do is police the site, and it shows: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ChrisArchitect

You are clearly oblivious as to how off-putting your behaviour is to new contributions. Just think on that. I wish this site had a feature to ignore users.

[In 20 hours this has garnered 308 points and 122 comments and you are bleating "Anything new here?" As I said before, read the room. The world doesn't revolve around you. Perhaps you are running a bot.]

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