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1. angora+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 14:30:29
> It seems less of a lift

I’ve seen this expression a lot recently and it baffles me.

The word you are looking for is “effort,” or if you prefer adjectives, maybe something like “difficult.”

replies(2): >>Kye+w3 >>collin+AX1
2. Kye+w3[view] [source] 2023-11-18 14:49:34
>>angora+(OP)
This will blow your mind but English has endless dialects and minor variations. This is like complaining that someone calls soda pop or says y'all.
replies(3): >>macint+eb >>orand+1k >>angora+NH
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3. macint+eb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 15:39:53
>>Kye+w3
Englisc must ðêos hwierfan
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4. Kye+Qj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 16:28:11
>>macint+eb
My very rough attempt at translation: "Yes, English must change"

Am I close?

replies(1): >>macint+CV
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5. orand+1k[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 16:29:21
>>Kye+w3
Spoken like a true language hypergrowth apologist.
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6. angora+NH[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 18:26:46
>>Kye+w3
I’m aware, but this phrase seems to be more meaningless corporate-speak than regional dialect or variation. The only purpose of phrases like this is to make the speaker sound smart at the cost of obfuscating what they mean.
replies(2): >>Kye+hL >>jimmyd+YL
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7. Kye+hL[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 18:45:18
>>angora+NH
How is it obfuscated? The meaning is perfectly clear in context. You're stretching too much for this lift.
replies(1): >>angora+9g1
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8. jimmyd+YL[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 18:49:38
>>angora+NH
Obfuscating? What's the purpose of using this fancy word? Why not just say "make hard to understand?"
replies(2): >>angora+Lf1 >>fuzzte+jg5
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9. macint+CV[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 19:46:56
>>Kye+Qj
I tried for “English must not change” but sadly I never bought that Anglo-Saxon dictionary I lusted after in my favorite used bookstore 30 years ago.
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10. angora+Lf1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 21:42:11
>>jimmyd+YL
I’m not against using big words when they’re used according to their actual accepted meaning. But take my upvote regardless :)
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11. angora+9g1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 21:44:08
>>Kye+hL
> You’re stretching too much for this lift

I read/hear sentences like this all day at work and I’ve taken to just interpreting them literally. So I’ll have you know I’m neither exercising nor on an elevator right now.

12. collin+AX1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 01:58:16
>>angora+(OP)
Idioms exist and probably always will. I personally think they add a pleasant amount of variety and depth to communication, and sometimes even add deep nuance/context (even if I don't like every set of jargon or slang).

Even your "looking for" is a metaphor since you technically can't "look" for words (except as a metaphor for literally reading in a dictionary?) but we all know exactly what you mean. Moreover, if we trimmed language down to a minimal set and always used extremely precise meaning that might be an even worse experience than the "corporate speak" you're frustrated by.

Maybe you can redirect your anger to the part of corporate speak that I personally find annoying which is not the phrases per se but the propensity for using lots of words to say very little and to avoid directly taking responsibility for things. Let's put a pin in that one for now though and get something on the calendar to hash that out so we can get on the same page and circle back when we have a better bird's eye view on the action items and the right person to be decider :)

On the other hand you could take up loglan/lojban and maybe end up happier? Especially if it resulted in fewer meetings and managers.

replies(1): >>fuzzte+of5
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13. fuzzte+of5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 00:10:04
>>collin+AX1
yeah!

and also:

let's all jump on a call, set kras so we stay on the ball, up our team work to get that perk, get our messaging right, so the kpi chart goes up and to the right.

go team! play ball!

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14. fuzzte+jg5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 00:14:40
>>jimmyd+YL
Obfuscating is an easy word to understand. Only 11 letters. You, sir, are phantasmagorical. (16)
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