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1. Paul-C+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 12:08:55
Absolutely none of that is necessarily voluntary. You have missed the point entirely. A choice between "X or die" is not a choice. That is a very real scenario, which you have not even acknowledge. Instead, you're saying I should be an expert in contracts.

I am not making the situation "extreme," either. If anything, the situation is even more extreme than I am making it out to be.

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2. eru+D46[view] [source] 2023-11-20 03:32:28
>>Paul-C+(OP)
The unemployment rate in the US is near record lows, so there are plenty of alternatives for most people. And: your government spent about 22.7% of GDP on social expenditures (in 2022, the latest year I have data for). See https://www.oecd.org/social/expenditure.htm

You have a hard time convincing anyone that the choice is "take this job or die" for most people.

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3. Paul-C+VD7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 13:49:09
>>eru+D46
Oh, so it's okay if it's voluntary for some people but not for others? I guess slavery in the 1800s was okay because most people weren't slaves, then.
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