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1. concor+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 10:27:18
Impossible with LLMs, with currently known techniques or impossible full stop?
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2. wil421+p5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 11:14:54
>>concor+(OP)
Impossible with computers full stop. IMHO, we may be able to slice together DNA or modify it to create a new or smarter organism than AGI in a computer.

They already shifted goal posts and they’ll do it again. AI used to mean AGI but marketing got a hold of it. Once something resembling AGI comes out they’ll say well it’s not Level 5 AGI or something similar.

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3. concor+Cd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 12:14:41
>>wil421+p5
> Impossible with computers full stop.

This combined with it being possible with DNA is a very rare view. How did you come by it?

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4. august+Nf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 12:27:20
>>wil421+p5
if you think it’s impossible with computers then surely you must have a reason why computers are operationally incapable of doing the same as flesh and blood
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5. zzzeek+7i[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 12:44:28
>>concor+Cd
I would assume Blade Runner
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6. wavewr+2q[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 13:34:19
>>wil421+p5
“…Alright, so it can DREAM!!! BUT CAN IT suffer?!?!”
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7. pixl97+e81[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 17:43:03
>>wil421+p5
>AI used to mean AGI but marketing got a hold of it

It does not and never has.

What happens with the term AI as time has progressed is more to do with the word Intelligence itself. When we went about trying to prescribe intelligence to systems we started to realize we were really bad a doing the same with animal humans systems. We were also terrible at separating what is component level and systems level intelligence. For example, you seem to think that intelligence requires meat, but you don't give any reasoning for that conclusion.

These lists of problems with what intelligence is will get worse over time as we build more capable systems and learn about new forms of intelligence we didn't expect possible.

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