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1. andrew+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 10:15:30
I absolutely guarantee you when Microsoft owns 50% that they paid $50,000,000,000 for, that Microsoft is really in charge.

The board and Ilya will all be gone within a month.

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2. concor+h3[view] [source] 2023-11-18 10:40:40
>>andrew+(OP)
Via what mechanism?
3. jessri+P5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 11:04:11
>>andrew+(OP)
They're not. They don't have board seats. The mission-driven founders of Open AI were very serious about ensuring this.
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4. junto+E6[view] [source] 2023-11-18 11:11:05
>>andrew+(OP)
That makes very little sense. Microsoft spent the last week enthusing about the leadership and vision of OpenAI and their strong partnership, even in Nadella’s keynote speech at the Ignite conference. It’s Microsoft’s biggest event of the year. This makes them look pretty stupid, and the announcement came before market closing hours on a Friday, which put in dent in their share price.

However, I would not be surprised if Microsoft take advantage of this unexpected situation for their gain.

5. cthalu+87[view] [source] 2023-11-18 11:15:04
>>andrew+(OP)
https://openai.com/our-structure

Microsoft doesn't even own a majority stake in the for-profit, much less anything at all in the non-profit that ultimately controls everything.

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6. thawab+j9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 11:30:12
>>jessri+P5
with the amount they paid, how did they not get a seat in the board?
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7. cthalu+I9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 11:34:01
>>thawab+j9
They did not ever have the possibility of one but decided that their investment was still worth the return.

We can debate whether or not that was wise of them, but because of the charter and structure of OpenAI it was never on the table.

8. andrew+Dx5[view] [source] 2023-11-19 22:21:32
>>andrew+(OP)
To all the commenters in this thread, here we are a few days later.....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-19/openai-ne...

OpenAI Negotiations to Reinstate Altman Hit Snag Over Board Role

    OpenAI’s leaders want board removed, but directors resisting
    Microsoft’s Nadella leading high-stakes talks on Altman return
Sam Altman

Photographer: Joel Saget/AFP/Getty Images Have a confidential tip for our reporters? Get in Touch Before it’s here, it’s on the Bloomberg Terminal LEARN MORE By Emily Chang, Edward Ludlow, Rachel Metz, and Dina Bass November 20, 2023 at 7:17 AM GMT+11 Updated on November 20, 2023 at 7:47 AM GMT+11

A group of OpenAI executives and investors racing to get Sam Altman reinstated to his role as chief executive officer have reached an impasse over the makeup and role of the board, according to people familiar with the negotiations. The decision to restore Altman’s role as CEO could come quickly, though talks are fluid and still ongoing.

At midday Sunday, Altman and former President Greg Brockman were in the startup’s headquarters, according to people familiar with the matter.

OpenAI leaders pushing for the board to resign and to reinstate Altman include Interim CEO Mira Murati, Chief Strategy Officer Jason Kwon and Chief Operating Officer Brad Lightcap, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. foundering_tout

Altman, who was fired Friday, is open to returning but wants to see governance changes — including the removal of existing board members, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the negotiations are private. After facing intense pressure following their decision to fire Altman Friday, the board agreed in principle to step down, but have so far refused to officially do so. The directors have been vetting candidates for new directors.

At the center of the high-stakes negotiations between the executives, investors and the board is Microsoft Corp. CEO Satya Nadella. Nadella has been leading the charge on talks between the different factions, some of the people said. Microsoft is OpenAI’s biggest investor, with $13 billion invested in the company.

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