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Why not blame Altman for that?

If he didn't manage to keep OpenAI consistent with it's founding principles and all interests aligned then wouldn't booting him be right? The name OpenAI had become a source of mockery. If Altman/Brockman take employees for a commercial venture, it just seems to prove their insincerity about the OpenAI mission.

>>Fluore+(OP)
Because making as much profit as possible is the only virtue worth pursuing if you believe most comments on Hn. We’re basically Ferengui.

>>Fluore+(OP)
I think "blaming" Sam is entirely correct.

Of course, not for the petty reasons that you list. Sama has comprehensively explained why the original OS model did not work, and so far the argument – it's very expensive – seems to align with a reality where every single semi-competitive available LLM (since they all pale in comparison to GPT-4 anyway) has been trained with a whole lot of corporate money. Meta side-chaining "open" models with their social media ad money is obviously not a comparative business, or any business. I get that the HN crowd + Elon are super salty about that, but it's just a bit silly.

No, Sam's failure as CEO is not having done what is necessary to align the right people in the company with the course he has decided on and losing control over that.

>>Phenom+L1
> Ferengui

A fitting typo!

Show HN: FerenGUI - the ui framework for immoral arch-capitalists

Every dark-pattern included as standard components. Upgrade to Pro to get the price-fixing and hidden monero miner modules.

>>Phenom+L1
There was a line Rom says in DS9 that think sums the Ferengi up pretty well: "We don't want to stop the exploitation. We want to find a way to become the exploiters."

>>Phenom+L1
Rule of Acquisition no. 2 “The best deal is the one that brings the most profit.”

>>omnimu+t6
What's no. 1, or am I unintentionally beckoning you to violate it in making it vocal?

>>Fluore+26
I think you’re on to something, especially when that’s where most of the big scale enterprises end up.

>>Obscur+Ua
Actually the rule above is “non-cannon” [0]. In the official rules [1] number 1 is:

> Once you have their money, you never give it back.

There is no official rule 2 so the non-cannon one is as good as any and the unwritten rule [2]:

> When no appropriate rule applies, make one up

Means they probably would have been covered either way.

[0] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition#Ap...

[1] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition#Of...

[2] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition#Un...

>>joshst+5f
This is all unintentionally amusing to me :)

>>jstumm+O5
This is on point. This whole mess is indeed an alignment issue. The fact that this came as a surprise to him could be an indicator of insufficient engagement with the board.

>>nerber+Og
I've been watching For All Mankind and a small subplot was the director finally choosing to "play ball with the big boys" in order as to secure funding and stability for NASA's scientific projects. It made NASA underlings unhappy but was justified as a necessary evil.

It's like a real-life example, i.e. what would you do if you were in the CEO's position?

>>Obscur+Of
Very nullsome ;)